[bars] Recruting new Hams in EMASS

[Paul Graveline]

Thanks Geoff for your supporting comments. I will be thrilled if we ever
get to engaging businesses that want to train their employees . I would
feel that we were a success.

Paul K1YUB

On Sat, Feb 4, 2023 at 12:43 PM Geoffrey Feldman <geoffreyf at comcast.net>
wrote:

> There are many businesses which have Ham clubs for their employees.  They
> do this for the same reason they have other employee activities but also
> for exactly the reason stated by Mr. Graveline.
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> I worked for a business that used Ham Radio in their business.  You
> probably know of it as Ham Radio Outlet.  We used Ham Radio in the business
> every hour of every working day, Gary. K1HRO is a repeater in the area and
> it’s pretty obvious who is operating it and why and no secret where the
> machine actually is.  The FCC knows all about HRO, in fact they are
> customers.
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> It is also legal for Hams to sell radios over the air, during
> conversations with other Hams.  Inference is not a basis for legal action.
> Charging money  for transmitting  or using a transmission to guide business
> operations such as orders or schedules is illegal.
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> Making money because of Ham activity and skills learned or perfected is a
> ham radio tradition and known business partnership from day 1 of
> licensing.  Many people have gotten rich doing that, notably Art Collins
> for just one example.    Developing improved radio techniques by using Ham
> radio is often done by corporate product development engineers.  In fact,
> that is one of the stated public benefits of making licenses available,
> that working engineers can experiment.
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> Mr. Graveline proposes here is just fine, a really great idea, and in no
> way would put him, or anyone involved in his project, in peril.   Please
> let our hobby flow with creative ideas like this, not fears without
> reference to real enforcement actions.  Yes, Mr. Graveline – I am most
> interested in getting updates on your project.
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> Geoff W1GCF
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> *From:* bars [mailto:bars-bounces at w1hh.org] *On Behalf Of *
> gary at garyfrascarelli.com
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 4, 2023 11:15 AM
> *To:* 'Paul Graveline'; 'BARS CLUB BROADCAST'
> *Subject:* Re: [bars] Recruting new Hams in EMASS
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> Make sure you in no way infer to any business that they may use ham radio
> IN their business as that would not be legal.
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>
> Gary Frascarelli, Landscape Artist
>
> Ham Radio Operator, W1GFF
>
> www.garyfrascarelli.com
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> *From:* bars <bars-bounces at w1hh.org> *On Behalf Of *Paul Graveline
> *Sent:* Friday, February 3, 2023 8:42 PM
> *To:* BARS CLUB BROADCAST <bars at w1hh.org>
> *Subject:* [bars] Recruting new Hams in EMASS
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> Section Manager Jon McCombie, N1ILZ, has just appointed me EMASS Section
> Youth Coordinator. While my title only mentions youth, Jon and I have
> decided to expand that to all phases of recruiting prospective Ham
> potentially including from  businesses.
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> The project will not directly target the young adults themselves but focus
> on convincing certain adult populations such as teachers, homeschoolers and
> makers that Ham Radio is the first step to a long term and lucrative career
> in telecommunications.
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> We are asking a small favor of you to help us get the campaign going.
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> Our first task is to develop a comprehensive listing of the skills that
> can be learned  through Ham Radio. This is where you can help.
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> Most hams become very proficient in one or two specific areas (
> constructing , contesting, digital communications etc.) and we are asking
> you to pick your favorite area of Ham Radio and send along 5 skills which
> can be acquired in those areas ( examples: soldering, emergency
> communications, antenna design).
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> A comprehensive list of these skills will be developed and distributed to
> whoever is interested.
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> Timely updates will be published as well as an occasional report on our
> progress. If you would like to receive occasional updates, let me know.
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