From douglas.bruce1 at comcast.net Tue Dec 3 08:20:32 2024 From: douglas.bruce1 at comcast.net (DOUGLAS BRUCE) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 09:20:32 -0500 (EST) Subject: [bars] Club Meeting December 4, 2024 will be ZOOM ONLY!! Message-ID: <1493005712.778064.1733235632934@connect.xfinity.com> Greetings Fellow Members, The Board has decided that the Club Meeting on Wednesday December 4, 2024 will be ZOOM ONLY. We have had technical challenges that last few in person meetings trying to go the hybrid route that we need to iron out, so the next in person hybrid meeting will be in February 2025. Thank you for your understanding. 73, Doug N1WRN -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k1dc.radio at gmail.com Tue Dec 3 19:40:58 2024 From: k1dc.radio at gmail.com (Tim - K1DC) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 20:40:58 -0500 Subject: [bars] Mongolia with 100w and a wire! Message-ID: <0caa9ce8-b13b-4912-b485-6ceadbf05940@gmail.com> Greetings all! I'm very excited!? I just worked JT1CO (Mongolia) on 20m/FT8 with ~80w into a wire dipole at about 20ft!? There is QUITE? a pileup and it took ~30m of calling but I made it through! Man, I just LOVE these solar cycle peaks! They are still there on 20m - go get 'em!!? If I can do it with 80w and wire, you can too! 73 & Good DX! T. -- Courageously sent from a non-Apple device that /includes/ a headphone jack. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tim?Carter - K1DC +1.978.710.0133 k1dc.radio at gmail.com https://k1dc.com "Computers are incredibly fast, accurate and stupid; humans are incredibly slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are powerful beyond imagination." -- /Albert Einstein/ Warning: Spelling errors in this message are the product of a poor school system. Pay teachures more than athletes. This email is intended for the use of the individual addressee(s) named above and may contain information that is confidential privileged or unsuitable for overly sensitive persons with low self-esteem, no sense of humor or irrational religious beliefs. If you are not the intended recipient, any dissemination, distribution or copying of this email is not authorized (either explicitly or implicitly) and constitutes an irritating social fauxpas. No animals were harmed in the transmission of this email, although the mutt next door is living on borrowed time, let me tell you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kwaj.speedo at gmail.com Tue Dec 3 21:02:48 2024 From: kwaj.speedo at gmail.com (Christopher Lennon) Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2024 22:02:48 -0500 Subject: [bars] Mongolia with 100w and a wire! In-Reply-To: <0caa9ce8-b13b-4912-b485-6ceadbf05940@gmail.com> References: <0caa9ce8-b13b-4912-b485-6ceadbf05940@gmail.com> Message-ID: Mongolia!! Woot!!! Sent from my phone. On Tue, Dec 3, 2024, 8:41?PM Tim - K1DC wrote: > Greetings all! > > I'm very excited! I just worked JT1CO (Mongolia) on 20m/FT8 with ~80w > into a wire dipole at about 20ft! There is QUITE a pileup and it took > ~30m of calling but I made it through! > > Man, I just LOVE these solar cycle peaks! > > They are still there on 20m - go get 'em!! If I can do it with 80w and > wire, you can too! > > 73 & Good DX! > > T. > -- > > Courageously sent from a non-Apple device that *includes* a headphone > jack. > ------------------------------ > Tim Carter - K1DC > +1.978.710.0133 <1.978.710.0133> > k1dc.radio at gmail.com > https://k1dc.com > > "Computers are incredibly fast, accurate and stupid; humans are incredibly > slow, inaccurate and brilliant; together they are powerful beyond > imagination." -- *Albert Einstein* > > Warning: Spelling errors in this message are the product of a poor school > system. 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In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <111471766.869684.1733414005127@connect.xfinity.com> Hi Chris, There is a good chance you were hearing the CWOps guys. They are the speed demons of CW and hold weekly (Wednesday) 1 hour tests / 3 times a day. See: https://cwops.org/cwops-tests/ 73, Ken - WO1N > On 12/04/2024 10:23 PM EST Christopher Lennon wrote: > > > I often check in on the CW portion of 40m in the evenings to get a little practice copying. This evening it was ON FIRE! See the attached screen shot. It was packed from 7.020 to 7.050. All very fast; everyone seemed to be easily north of 20 WPM. I checked for contests but couldn't find one that explained it. Anyone know what that was about? > > Chris W2BPL > > > > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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They are the speed > demons of CW and hold weekly (Wednesday) 1 hour tests / 3 times a day. > > See: https://cwops.org/cwops-tests/ > > 73, > > Ken - WO1N > > On 12/04/2024 10:23 PM EST Christopher Lennon > wrote: > > > I often check in on the CW portion of 40m in the evenings to get a little > practice copying. This evening it was ON FIRE! See the attached screen > shot. It was packed from 7.020 to 7.050. All very fast; everyone seemed > to be easily north of 20 WPM. I checked for contests but couldn't find one > that explained it. Anyone know what that was about? > > Chris W2BPL > > > > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k1cpr at bd5.com Thu Dec 5 11:57:59 2024 From: k1cpr at bd5.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Juan_Jim=C3=A9nez?=) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 12:57:59 -0500 Subject: [bars] 40m on Fire! In-Reply-To: References: <111471766.869684.1733414005127@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: They usually stick to the edges of the bands. What i find interesting is that sunspots and other mild events are good for ham radio, but flares are not. I finally understand why. On Thu, Dec 5, 2024, 11:54 Jim Idelson wrote: > Almost certainly a CWOps weekly event, as Ken mentions. But, I would also > note that these events also welcome lots of ops who are new to CW. In > between, and calling into, the rapid-fire hotshots are all the guys trying > out their newly-acquired skills at slower speeds. > > -- > 73 Jim K1IR CWOps #73 > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2024, 10:54 KEN CARUSO via bars wrote: > >> Hi Chris, >> >> There is a good chance you were hearing the CWOps guys. They are the >> speed demons of CW and hold weekly (Wednesday) 1 hour tests / 3 times a day. >> >> See: https://cwops.org/cwops-tests/ >> >> 73, >> >> Ken - WO1N >> >> On 12/04/2024 10:23 PM EST Christopher Lennon >> wrote: >> >> >> I often check in on the CW portion of 40m in the evenings to get a little >> practice copying. This evening it was ON FIRE! See the attached screen >> shot. It was packed from 7.020 to 7.050. All very fast; everyone seemed >> to be easily north of 20 WPM. I checked for contests but couldn't find one >> that explained it. Anyone know what that was about? >> >> Chris W2BPL >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> bars mailing list >> bars at w1hh.org >> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> bars mailing list >> bars at w1hh.org >> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org >> > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kwaj.speedo at gmail.com Thu Dec 5 14:30:33 2024 From: kwaj.speedo at gmail.com (Christopher Lennon) Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2024 15:30:33 -0500 Subject: [bars] 40m on Fire! In-Reply-To: References: <111471766.869684.1733414005127@connect.xfinity.com> Message-ID: Yep looking back at the time, between 3 and 4 Zulu. There was a CWops event then. Thanks for the encouragement from those who gave it. I have been working at CW for a bit over a year and I am making real progress. Sent from my phone. On Thu, Dec 5, 2024, 12:58?PM Juan Jim?nez wrote: > They usually stick to the edges of the bands. > > What i find interesting is that sunspots and other mild events are good > for ham radio, but flares are not. I finally understand why. > > On Thu, Dec 5, 2024, 11:54 Jim Idelson wrote: > >> Almost certainly a CWOps weekly event, as Ken mentions. But, I would also >> note that these events also welcome lots of ops who are new to CW. In >> between, and calling into, the rapid-fire hotshots are all the guys trying >> out their newly-acquired skills at slower speeds. >> >> -- >> 73 Jim K1IR CWOps #73 >> >> On Thu, Dec 5, 2024, 10:54 KEN CARUSO via bars wrote: >> >>> Hi Chris, >>> >>> There is a good chance you were hearing the CWOps guys. They are the >>> speed demons of CW and hold weekly (Wednesday) 1 hour tests / 3 times a day. >>> >>> See: https://cwops.org/cwops-tests/ >>> >>> 73, >>> >>> Ken - WO1N >>> >>> On 12/04/2024 10:23 PM EST Christopher Lennon >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> I often check in on the CW portion of 40m in the evenings to get a >>> little practice copying. This evening it was ON FIRE! See the attached >>> screen shot. It was packed from 7.020 to 7.050. All very fast; everyone >>> seemed to be easily north of 20 WPM. I checked for contests but couldn't >>> find one that explained it. Anyone know what that was about? >>> >>> Chris W2BPL >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> bars mailing list >>> bars at w1hh.org >>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> bars mailing list >>> bars at w1hh.org >>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> bars mailing list >> bars at w1hh.org >> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org >> > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k1cpr at bd5.com Fri Dec 6 13:49:54 2024 From: k1cpr at bd5.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Juan_Jim=C3=A9nez?=) Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2024 14:49:54 -0500 Subject: [bars] Battleship IOWA on the Air!!! Message-ID: *The **Battleship IOWA Amateur Radio Association (BIARA) and the Iowa?s Innovation, Engineering and Technology Team (IET) will activate the ship?s original NEPM Navy call sign on December 7 - 8, 2024. Hours of operation both days are expected to be from 0700 PST (1500 UTC) to 1700 PST (0100 UTC)*. *This activation will be in memory of the 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor *and all the radio amateurs and aficionados who answered the call, taking their skills into the military and civilian war efforts. ARRL requested, and received from the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), a waiver to Section 97.111(a) to allow appropriately licensed amateur radio operators to work NEPM for this limited event. *Amateurs are reminded that they may not transmit on the military frequencies issued to NEPM. Amateur radio operators must operate within the privileges of their licenses. *Licensees of other countries not under the FCC?s jurisdiction are advised to refer to the regulations imposed by their licensing agencies before calling NEPM. All phone operations are on upper sideband. Here are the NEPM frequencies and modes: *Transmit Freq/Mode ... Listening Freq/Mode* ? 7.469 MHz USB/J3E ... 7.261 MHz USB/J3E ? 12.382 MHz CW/A1A ... 14.061 MHz CW/A1A ? 14.667 MHz USB/J3E ... 14.261 MHz USB/J3E ? 19.160 MHz RTTY ... 21.150 MHz RTTY ? 21.856 MHz USB/J3E ... 21.361 USB/J3E *The listening frequencies are a starting point. The operator will tell you where NEPM is listening to minimize causing interference to stations in band. *For an NEPM QSL please follow the instructions found on the BIARA website . The USS Iowa is moored at Port of Los Angeles. 73, K1CPR Juan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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This activation will be in memory of the 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor and all the radio amateurs and aficionados who answered the call, taking their skills into the military and civilian war efforts. ARRL requested, and received from the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), a waiver to Section 97.111(a) to allow appropriately licensed amateur radio operators to work NEPM for this limited event. Amateurs are reminded that they may not transmit on the military frequencies issued to NEPM. Amateur radio operators must operate within the privileges of their licenses. Licensees of other countries not under the FCC?s jurisdiction are advised to refer to the regulations imposed by their licensing agencies before calling NEPM. All phone operations are on upper sideband. Here are the NEPM frequencies and modes: Transmit Freq/Mode ... Listening Freq/Mode * 7.469 MHz USB/J3E ... 7.261 MHz USB/J3E * 12.382 MHz CW/A1A ... 14.061 MHz CW/A1A * 14.667 MHz USB/J3E ... 14.261 MHz USB/J3E * 19.160 MHz RTTY ... 21.150 MHz RTTY * 21.856 MHz USB/J3E ... 21.361 USB/J3E The listening frequencies are a starting point. The operator will tell you where NEPM is listening to minimize causing interference to stations in band. For an NEPM QSL please follow the instructions found on the BIARA website. The USS Iowa is moored at Port of Los Angeles. 73, K1CPR Juan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Chelmsford NF1A - Art - Billerica WA1ESU - Fred - Newburyport N1CVO - Shawn - Lowell KC1TLF - Dave - Tyngsborough KC1KBC - Mark - Billerica W1LUS - Bruce - Tewksbury AA1M - Bob - Burlington KC1VMX - Dan - Chelmsford N1HAN - Neil - Bedford K1DXP - Dany - Tyngsborough KA1ULN - Niece - Andover * net control manager/BARS president Billerica wins again with 4 check ins! Until next week, 73 & Gud DX! - Chris KC1IUK > On Dec 11, 2024, at 9:19?AM, DOUGLAS BRUCE wrote: > > Welcome to this week?s edition of "NET NOTES" !! > We will be having our BARS weekly net tonight at 08:00 pm EST or 01:00 UTC > > Show your support!! Please join in the fun ? all are most welcome. > > Chris, KC1IUK, will be your host tonight for the festivities! > > Here is the repeater info: > > QTH: Westford > > FREQ: 146.955 MHz > > CALL: WB1GOF > > Offset: - 0.6 MHz > > Tone: CTCSS 74.4 Hz > > NOTICE!! WE NEED VOLUNTEERS TO HELP OUT BY DOING THE NET ONCE EVERY FEW WEEKS!!!! Please contact Doug, N1WRN, for more info. > > 73, > Doug > N1WRN > Billerica Amateur Radio Society Net Manager > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From soldersmoke01 at gmail.com Fri Dec 13 08:36:29 2024 From: soldersmoke01 at gmail.com (Andy Wallace) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 09:36:29 -0500 Subject: [bars] (Fiberglass poles) Re: BARS December 2024 Newsletter In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10FB056D-60BB-488E-89F6-98C0BEE4ABA2@gmail.com> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From wo1n at comcast.net Fri Dec 13 11:26:47 2024 From: wo1n at comcast.net (wo1n) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 12:26:47 -0500 Subject: [bars] (Fiberglass poles) Re: BARS December 2024 Newsletter In-Reply-To: <10FB056D-60BB-488E-89F6-98C0BEE4ABA2@gmail.com> References: <10FB056D-60BB-488E-89F6-98C0BEE4ABA2@gmail.com> Message-ID: <003101db4d84$31cdbbf0$956933d0$@comcast.net> I viewed that as a good news / bad news post. Good news: I can?t believe that vendor you found is selling the fiberglass pole sections for $1 ea. Bad news: I am currently trying to sell the complete ?Camouflage Screening Support System? from my neighbor?s estate. This uses those same poles but also includes the stabilizing feet, the tripod bracket assembly, guy tie off points, ground stakes and carry bag. Here is an example of a similar, but not exact, complete kit: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/camouflage-screening-support-system-457736563 The complete kits can be found online for anywhere from $150 - $300. I was offering it at NEAR-Fest for $100 / BO. I?ll reduce the price to $50 for any BARS member interested. All funds continue to be returned to K1TPC?s XYL. 73, Ken ? WO1N From: bars On Behalf Of Andy Wallace Sent: Friday, December 13, 2024 9:36 AM To: Juan Jim?nez Cc: Reflector BARS Subject: [bars] (Fiberglass poles) Re: BARS December 2024 Newsletter Juan, thanks for sending this email and publishing in the Newsletter! Great to know of this source. Nearfest pre Covid used to have a regular dealer in these (I think it was GoVerticalUSA) who sold the fiberglass poles as well as spiders and guy rings - and also the aluminum poles. He no longer comes. It?s a loss! I have a doublet wire antenna up and I am using the aluminum poles. They are heavy and unwieldy when stacked - working alone I could only get the 4? long poles up 24?. But they are trees where none exist. :) For Marla?s installation we used the fiberglass ones, unguyed, and ice weight on the wire broke one. We used one less pole. Guyed would have helped. Instead of rebar, I used steel pipe from the hardware store, driven into the ground with a sledge (use a block of wood so the end won?t mushroom). Be sure to have a couple feet above the ground. To plan things I took some mesurements - notes below. Hope this helps. The poles are made for camouflage netting and not for ?ham antenna heights? but they can work well. Andy KA1GTT Need 1.25 inch max OD pipe to drive in ground for aluminum. 1 inch for fiberglass. Aluminum pole Large end OD 1.785 ID 1.563 Small end OD 1.563 ID 1.33 Fiberglass pole Large end OD 1.78 ID 1.56 Small end OD 1.56 ID 1.055 On Nov 26, 2024, at 4:51?PM, Juan Jim?nez > wrote: ? For those of you may be interested, here are additional pictures of my Army tent pole antenna tower. If you would like to purchase tent poles for your own tower, they are available in Easton MA, text Greg at 508-802-0647, he will give you directions. He sells them on the honor system, you grab what you need from the trailer (poles, guide wire stakes, etc.) and if he is not there you leave the money in one of his trucks. Make sure you grab the types of poles with the thicker reinforced end. They are stronger than the other ones. Bring a small ladder to get into the back of the trailer. If you want to use them for an actual tent, he also has the top pieces that spread out and support the tent material. <20241103_114853.jpg> <20241103_114916.jpg> <20241103_114919.jpg> 73, K1CPR Juan On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 3:14?PM Kayla Creamer > wrote: Hi everyone, We've got a great newsletter ready for your reading pleasure. Hard to believe it's the last one of 2024 already! Thanks, as always, to our newsletter editor, Marla, for putting this together every month. Also, thanks to those of you who contributed articles. Without articles, there is no newsletter. If you have something you'd like to submit for a future newsletter, be sure to send it to Marla at wa1gsf at comcast.net . Here's the link for this month's newsletter: https://bit.ly/Dec2024BARSNewsletter This Wednesday, 12/4, is our monthly membership meeting. Note that the meetings are now hybrid and will take place at the Chelmsford Bible Church at 128 Gorham Street in Chelmsford AND via Zoom at 7 pm EST. Be on the lookout for Zoom info from Bruce over the next couple of days. Annual club elections will be held at this month's meeting. This month's guest speaker will be an evening with New England Area Director Tom Frenaye, K1KI. Be sure to check out this month's newsletter or w1hh.org for more info on Tom and his presentation. As a reminder, BARS dues run from January 1 through December 31. Dues are just $15 for the year and help pay for the club Zoom account, the website, Field Day activities, etc. If you have not renewed, you can do so online at https://www.w1hh.org/join-or-renew/. If you're not sure if you are current or not, email our club treasurer, Bruce Anderson, at w1lus at hotmail.com . Wishing a safe and happy Thanksgiving to all! 73, Kayla W2IRY _______________________________________________ bars mailing list bars at w1hh.org http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org _______________________________________________ bars mailing list bars at w1hh.org http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ka1rrw at yahoo.com Fri Dec 13 11:52:50 2024 From: ka1rrw at yahoo.com (gmm) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 12:52:50 -0500 Subject: [bars] For sale, 12-foot solid Fiberglass antenna mast. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Speaking of poles, that reminds me I have one for sale. This is a "SOLID" fiberglass pole. Diameter 1.25" Length 12 Feet I used it for several years as an Elevation mast, holding two 12dbd VHF / UHF yagis. Price $50.00 Regards Miles WF1F From k1cpr at bd5.com Fri Dec 13 12:10:34 2024 From: k1cpr at bd5.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Juan_Jim=C3=A9nez?=) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 13:10:34 -0500 Subject: [bars] (Fiberglass poles) Re: BARS December 2024 Newsletter In-Reply-To: <003101db4d84$31cdbbf0$956933d0$@comcast.net> References: <10FB056D-60BB-488E-89F6-98C0BEE4ABA2@gmail.com> <003101db4d84$31cdbbf0$956933d0$@comcast.net> Message-ID: Sorry that it was bad news. Greg gives away all the other parts of that kit for free. ? 73, K1CPR Juan On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 12:26?PM wo1n via bars wrote: > I viewed that as a good news / bad news post. > > > > Good news: I can?t believe that vendor you found is selling the fiberglass > pole sections for $1 ea. > > > > Bad news: I am currently trying to sell the complete ?Camouflage Screening > Support System? from my neighbor?s estate. This uses those same poles but > also includes the stabilizing feet, the tripod bracket assembly, guy tie > off points, ground stakes and carry bag. > > > > Here is an example of a similar, but not exact, complete kit: > > > > > https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/camouflage-screening-support-system-457736563 > > > > The complete kits can be found online for anywhere from $150 - $300. > > > > I was offering it at NEAR-Fest for $100 / BO. > > > > I?ll reduce the price to $50 for any BARS member interested. All funds > continue to be returned to K1TPC?s XYL. > > > > 73, > > > > Ken ? WO1N > > > > *From:* bars *On Behalf Of *Andy Wallace > *Sent:* Friday, December 13, 2024 9:36 AM > *To:* Juan Jim?nez > *Cc:* Reflector BARS > *Subject:* [bars] (Fiberglass poles) Re: BARS December 2024 Newsletter > > > > Juan, thanks for sending this email and publishing in the Newsletter! > > > > Great to know of this source. Nearfest pre Covid used to have a regular > dealer in these (I think it was GoVerticalUSA) who sold the fiberglass > poles as well as spiders and guy rings - and also the aluminum poles. He no > longer comes. It?s a loss! > > > > I have a doublet wire antenna up and I am using the aluminum poles. They > are heavy and unwieldy when stacked - working alone I could only get the 4? > long poles up 24?. But they are trees where none exist. :) > > > > For Marla?s installation we used the fiberglass ones, unguyed, and ice > weight on the wire broke one. We used one less pole. Guyed would have > helped. > > > > Instead of rebar, I used steel pipe from the hardware store, driven into > the ground with a sledge (use a block of wood so the end won?t mushroom). > Be sure to have a couple feet above the ground. > > > > To plan things I took some mesurements - notes below. > > > > Hope this helps. The poles are made for camouflage netting and not for > ?ham antenna heights? but they can work well. > > Andy > > KA1GTT > > > > Need 1.25 inch max OD pipe to drive in ground for aluminum. 1 inch for > fiberglass. > > > > Aluminum pole > > Large end > > OD 1.785 > > ID 1.563 > > Small end > > OD 1.563 > > ID 1.33 > > > > Fiberglass pole > > Large end > > OD 1.78 > > ID 1.56 > > Small end > > OD 1.56 > > ID 1.055 > > > > > > > On Nov 26, 2024, at 4:51?PM, Juan Jim?nez wrote: > > ? > > For those of you may be interested, here are additional pictures of my > Army tent pole antenna tower. > > > > If you would like to purchase tent poles for your own tower, they are > available in Easton MA, text Greg at 508-802-0647, he will give you > directions. He sells them on the honor system, you grab what you need from > the trailer (poles, guide wire stakes, etc.) and if he is not there you > leave the money in one of his trucks. *Make sure you grab the types of > poles with the thicker reinforced end*. They are stronger than the other > ones. Bring a small ladder to get into the back of the trailer. > > > > If you want to use them for an actual tent, he also has the top pieces > that spread out and support the tent material. > > > > <20241103_114853.jpg> > > <20241103_114916.jpg> > > <20241103_114919.jpg> > > > > > > 73, > > K1CPR > > Juan > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 3:14?PM Kayla Creamer > wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > We've got a great newsletter ready for your reading pleasure. Hard to > believe it's the last one of 2024 already! Thanks, as always, to our > newsletter editor, Marla, for putting this together every month. Also, > thanks to those of you who contributed articles. Without articles, there is > no newsletter. If you have something you'd like to submit for a future > newsletter, be sure to send it to Marla at wa1gsf at comcast.net. Here's the > link for this month's newsletter: https://bit.ly/Dec2024BARSNewsletter > > > > This Wednesday, 12/4, is our monthly membership meeting. Note that the > meetings are now hybrid and will take place at the Chelmsford Bible Church > at 128 Gorham Street in Chelmsford AND via Zoom at 7 pm EST. Be on the > lookout for Zoom info from Bruce over the next couple of days. Annual club > elections will be held at this month's meeting. > > > > This month's guest speaker will be an evening with New England Area > Director Tom Frenaye, K1KI. Be sure to check out this month's newsletter or > w1hh.org for more info on Tom and his presentation. > > > > As a reminder, BARS dues run from January 1 through December 31. Dues are > just $15 for the year and help pay for the club Zoom account, the website, > Field Day activities, etc. If you have not renewed, you can do so online at > https://www.w1hh.org/join-or-renew/. If you're not sure if you are > current or not, email our club treasurer, Bruce Anderson, at > w1lus at hotmail.com. > > > > Wishing a safe and happy Thanksgiving to all! > > > > 73, > > Kayla > > W2IRY > > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k1cpr at bd5.com Fri Dec 13 12:18:47 2024 From: k1cpr at bd5.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Juan_Jim=C3=A9nez?=) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 13:18:47 -0500 Subject: [bars] (Fiberglass poles) Re: BARS December 2024 Newsletter In-Reply-To: <10FB056D-60BB-488E-89F6-98C0BEE4ABA2@gmail.com> References: <10FB056D-60BB-488E-89F6-98C0BEE4ABA2@gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks for the info. My pole setup has worked very well with the MFJ-1786 antenna at the top, even in high winds, but as I said in my article, I reinforced the joints with through-bolts and used three nylon guy wires. Since the article came out I have also found other people who did this before me, so I'm not the inventor of this wacky idea. ? As to their use as netting support poles. you may have a point there. But I figure holding up lightweight antennas or wire will be fine. If it falls, put it up again. ? 73, K1CPR Juan On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 9:36?AM Andy Wallace wrote: > Juan, thanks for sending this email and publishing in the Newsletter! > > Great to know of this source. Nearfest pre Covid used to have a regular > dealer in these (I think it was GoVerticalUSA) who sold the fiberglass > poles as well as spiders and guy rings - and also the aluminum poles. He no > longer comes. It?s a loss! > > I have a doublet wire antenna up and I am using the aluminum poles. They > are heavy and unwieldy when stacked - working alone I could only get the 4? > long poles up 24?. But they are trees where none exist. :) > > For Marla?s installation we used the fiberglass ones, unguyed, and ice > weight on the wire broke one. We used one less pole. Guyed would have > helped. > > Instead of rebar, I used steel pipe from the hardware store, driven into > the ground with a sledge (use a block of wood so the end won?t mushroom). > Be sure to have a couple feet above the ground. > > To plan things I took some mesurements - notes below. > > Hope this helps. The poles are made for camouflage netting and not for > ?ham antenna heights? but they can work well. > Andy > KA1GTT > > Need 1.25 inch max OD pipe to drive in ground for aluminum. 1 inch for > fiberglass. > > > > Aluminum pole > > Large end > > OD 1.785 > > ID 1.563 > > Small end > > OD 1.563 > > ID 1.33 > > > > Fiberglass pole > > Large end > > OD 1.78 > > ID 1.56 > > Small end > > OD 1.56 > > ID 1.055 > > > > > On Nov 26, 2024, at 4:51?PM, Juan Jim?nez wrote: > > ? > For those of you may be interested, here are additional pictures of my > Army tent pole antenna tower. > > If you would like to purchase tent poles for your own tower, they are > available in Easton MA, text Greg at 508-802-0647, he will give you > directions. He sells them on the honor system, you grab what you need from > the trailer (poles, guide wire stakes, etc.) and if he is not there you > leave the money in one of his trucks. *Make sure you grab the types of > poles with the thicker reinforced end*. They are stronger than the other > ones. Bring a small ladder to get into the back of the trailer. > > If you want to use them for an actual tent, he also has the top pieces > that spread out and support the tent material. > > <20241103_114853.jpg> > <20241103_114916.jpg> > <20241103_114919.jpg> > > > 73, > K1CPR > Juan > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 3:14?PM Kayla Creamer > wrote: > >> Hi everyone, >> >> We've got a great newsletter ready for your reading pleasure. Hard to >> believe it's the last one of 2024 already! Thanks, as always, to our >> newsletter editor, Marla, for putting this together every month. Also, >> thanks to those of you who contributed articles. Without articles, there is >> no newsletter. If you have something you'd like to submit for a future >> newsletter, be sure to send it to Marla at wa1gsf at comcast.net. Here's >> the link for this month's newsletter: >> https://bit.ly/Dec2024BARSNewsletter >> >> This Wednesday, 12/4, is our monthly membership meeting. Note that the >> meetings are now hybrid and will take place at the Chelmsford Bible Church >> at 128 Gorham Street in Chelmsford AND via Zoom at 7 pm EST. Be on the >> lookout for Zoom info from Bruce over the next couple of days. Annual club >> elections will be held at this month's meeting. >> >> This month's guest speaker will be an evening with New England Area >> Director Tom Frenaye, K1KI. Be sure to check out this month's newsletter or >> w1hh.org for more info on Tom and his presentation. >> >> As a reminder, BARS dues run from January 1 through December 31. Dues are >> just $15 for the year and help pay for the club Zoom account, the website, >> Field Day activities, etc. If you have not renewed, you can do so online at >> https://www.w1hh.org/join-or-renew/. If you're not sure if you are >> current or not, email our club treasurer, Bruce Anderson, at >> w1lus at hotmail.com. >> >> Wishing a safe and happy Thanksgiving to all! >> >> 73, >> Kayla >> W2IRY >> _______________________________________________ >> bars mailing list >> bars at w1hh.org >> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org >> > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ka1uln1 at gmail.com Fri Dec 13 12:44:00 2024 From: ka1uln1 at gmail.com (ka1uln@arrl.net) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2024 13:44:00 -0500 Subject: [bars] (Fiberglass poles) Re: BARS December 2024 Newsletter In-Reply-To: References: <10FB056D-60BB-488E-89F6-98C0BEE4ABA2@gmail.com> Message-ID: i agree. i have the tripod. and it is awesome i have my 28.2235 a99 antenna up 40 feet on this poles and tripod. this n fact i am waiting for delivery of the tripod piece. and. the piece that holes the poles in the ground. i wonder what happened. to goverticalusa.com 73 Niece Please listen for my 10m CW beacon 28.2235 ARRL member when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first check out: KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 13:19 Juan Jim?nez wrote: > Thanks for the info. My pole setup has worked very well with the MFJ-1786 > antenna at the top, even in high winds, but as I said in my article, I > reinforced the joints with through-bolts and used three nylon guy wires. > Since the article came out I have also found other people who did this > before me, so I'm not the inventor of this wacky idea. ? As to their use > as netting support poles. you may have a point there. But I figure holding > up lightweight antennas or wire will be fine. If it falls, put it up again. > ? > > 73, > K1CPR > Juan > > > On Fri, Dec 13, 2024 at 9:36?AM Andy Wallace > wrote: > >> Juan, thanks for sending this email and publishing in the Newsletter! >> >> Great to know of this source. Nearfest pre Covid used to have a regular >> dealer in these (I think it was GoVerticalUSA) who sold the fiberglass >> poles as well as spiders and guy rings - and also the aluminum poles. He no >> longer comes. It?s a loss! >> >> I have a doublet wire antenna up and I am using the aluminum poles. They >> are heavy and unwieldy when stacked - working alone I could only get the 4? >> long poles up 24?. But they are trees where none exist. :) >> >> For Marla?s installation we used the fiberglass ones, unguyed, and ice >> weight on the wire broke one. We used one less pole. Guyed would have >> helped. >> >> Instead of rebar, I used steel pipe from the hardware store, driven into >> the ground with a sledge (use a block of wood so the end won?t mushroom). >> Be sure to have a couple feet above the ground. >> >> To plan things I took some mesurements - notes below. >> >> Hope this helps. The poles are made for camouflage netting and not for >> ?ham antenna heights? but they can work well. >> Andy >> KA1GTT >> >> Need 1.25 inch max OD pipe to drive in ground for aluminum. 1 inch for >> fiberglass. >> >> >> >> Aluminum pole >> >> Large end >> >> OD 1.785 >> >> ID 1.563 >> >> Small end >> >> OD 1.563 >> >> ID 1.33 >> >> >> >> Fiberglass pole >> >> Large end >> >> OD 1.78 >> >> ID 1.56 >> >> Small end >> >> OD 1.56 >> >> ID 1.055 >> >> >> >> >> On Nov 26, 2024, at 4:51?PM, Juan Jim?nez wrote: >> >> ? >> For those of you may be interested, here are additional pictures of my >> Army tent pole antenna tower. >> >> If you would like to purchase tent poles for your own tower, they are >> available in Easton MA, text Greg at 508-802-0647, he will give you >> directions. He sells them on the honor system, you grab what you need from >> the trailer (poles, guide wire stakes, etc.) and if he is not there you >> leave the money in one of his trucks. *Make sure you grab the types of >> poles with the thicker reinforced end*. They are stronger than the other >> ones. Bring a small ladder to get into the back of the trailer. >> >> If you want to use them for an actual tent, he also has the top pieces >> that spread out and support the tent material. >> >> <20241103_114853.jpg> >> <20241103_114916.jpg> >> <20241103_114919.jpg> >> >> >> 73, >> K1CPR >> Juan >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 3:14?PM Kayla Creamer >> wrote: >> >>> Hi everyone, >>> >>> We've got a great newsletter ready for your reading pleasure. Hard to >>> believe it's the last one of 2024 already! Thanks, as always, to our >>> newsletter editor, Marla, for putting this together every month. Also, >>> thanks to those of you who contributed articles. Without articles, there is >>> no newsletter. If you have something you'd like to submit for a future >>> newsletter, be sure to send it to Marla at wa1gsf at comcast.net. Here's >>> the link for this month's newsletter: >>> https://bit.ly/Dec2024BARSNewsletter >>> >>> This Wednesday, 12/4, is our monthly membership meeting. Note that the >>> meetings are now hybrid and will take place at the Chelmsford Bible Church >>> at 128 Gorham Street >>> >>> in Chelmsford AND via Zoom at 7 pm EST. Be on the lookout for Zoom info >>> from Bruce over the next couple of days. Annual club elections will be held >>> at this month's meeting. >>> >>> This month's guest speaker will be an evening with New England Area >>> Director Tom Frenaye, K1KI. Be sure to check out this month's newsletter or >>> w1hh.org for more info on Tom and his presentation. >>> >>> As a reminder, BARS dues run from January 1 through December 31. Dues >>> are just $15 for the year and help pay for the club Zoom account, the >>> website, Field Day activities, etc. If you have not renewed, you can do so >>> online at https://www.w1hh.org/join-or-renew/. If you're not sure if >>> you are current or not, email our club treasurer, Bruce Anderson, at >>> w1lus at hotmail.com. >>> >>> Wishing a safe and happy Thanksgiving to all! >>> >>> 73, >>> Kayla >>> W2IRY >>> _______________________________________________ >>> bars mailing list >>> bars at w1hh.org >>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> bars mailing list >> bars at w1hh.org >> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org >> > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Search his call on Youtube and there are lots of videos like: > > [image: maxresdefault.jpg] > > Joe Walsh's Start in Ham Radio: Ham Nation 200 > > youtu.be > > > > He also loves vacuum tube gear - ?boatanchors?. > > Other musical hams - Leo Fender, Chet Atkins (W4CGP), Patty Loveless, Greg > Ginn (Black Flag)? > > Andy > KA1GTT > > On Dec 16, 2024, at 12:54?PM, Juan Jim?nez wrote: > > ? > How many of you know crazy Joe Walsh, 77 yrs old and 50th best guitarist > in the world according to Rolling Stones top 100 list, and a long time > member of The Eagles, is also an Amateur Extra holder and avid HAM radio > enthusiast? I found out yesterday. That is very cool. His call sign is > WB6ACU. > > 73, > K1CPR > Juan > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: maxresdefault.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 105671 bytes Desc: not available URL: From vze18vwgu at verizon.net Mon Dec 16 12:43:09 2024 From: vze18vwgu at verizon.net (Mike Raisbeck) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 18:43:09 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [bars] The Eagles In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1064413449.3963674.1734374589553@mail.yahoo.com> Heck yes.? W1RC and myself have sold him interesting boat anchors over the years ... Mikek1twf On Monday, December 16, 2024 at 12:54:22 PM EST, Juan Jim?nez wrote: How many of you know crazy Joe Walsh, 77 yrs old and 50th best guitarist in the world according to Rolling Stones top 100 list, and a long time member of The Eagles, is also an Amateur Extra holder and avid HAM radio enthusiast? I found out yesterday. That is very cool. His call sign is WB6ACU. 73,K1CPRJuan_______________________________________________ bars mailing list bars at w1hh.org http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From john.schulman at comcast.net Mon Dec 16 13:00:29 2024 From: john.schulman at comcast.net (john.schulman at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 19:00:29 +0000 Subject: [bars] The Eagles In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Debatable, although great! John WA1MVD (devout musician) ________________________________ From: bars on behalf of Juan Jim?nez Sent: Monday, December 16, 2024 12:53 PM Cc: w1hh ; mmra at groups.io Subject: [bars] The Eagles How many of you know crazy Joe Walsh, 77 yrs old and 50th best guitarist in the world according to Rolling Stones top 100 list, and a long time member of The Eagles, is also an Amateur Extra holder and avid HAM radio enthusiast? I found out yesterday. That is very cool. His call sign is WB6ACU. 73, K1CPR Juan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From scrook at comcast.net Mon Dec 16 13:42:52 2024 From: scrook at comcast.net (Stephen Crook) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 14:42:52 -0500 Subject: [bars] The Eagles In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Which of the following is debatable? He?s 77 yrs old? He the 50th best guitarist in the world according to Rolling Stones top 100 list? He?s a long time member of The Eagles? He?s an Amateur Extra holder? He?s an avid HAM radio enthusiast? His call sign is WB6ACU. Steve In my 60?s Not a guitar player Never was a member of The Eagles An Amateur Extra [lite] holder A semi-active HAM enthusiast Call sign KB1LKR Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 16, 2024, at 2:01?PM, john.schulman--- via bars wrote: > > 77 yrs old and 50th best guitarist in the world according to Rolling Stones top 100 list, and a long time member of The Eagles, is also an Amateur Extra holder and avid HAM radio enthusiast? I found out yesterday. That is very cool. His call sign is WB6ACU. From kwaj.speedo at gmail.com Mon Dec 16 14:52:08 2024 From: kwaj.speedo at gmail.com (Christopher Lennon) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 15:52:08 -0500 Subject: [bars] The Eagles In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That IS cool, although I most remember him from his James Gang days. Chris W2BPL Sent from my phone. On Mon, Dec 16, 2024, 2:43?PM Stephen Crook via bars wrote: > Which of the following is debatable? > > He?s 77 yrs old? > He the 50th best guitarist in the world according to Rolling Stones top > 100 list? > He?s a long time member of The Eagles? > He?s an Amateur Extra holder? > He?s an avid HAM radio enthusiast? > His call sign is WB6ACU. > > Steve > In my 60?s > Not a guitar player > Never was a member of The Eagles > An Amateur Extra [lite] holder > A semi-active HAM enthusiast > Call sign KB1LKR > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Dec 16, 2024, at 2:01?PM, john.schulman--- via bars > wrote: > > > > 77 yrs old and 50th best guitarist in the world according to Rolling > Stones top 100 list, and a long time member of The Eagles, is also an > Amateur Extra holder and avid HAM radio enthusiast? I found out yesterday. > That is very cool. His call sign is WB6ACU. > > > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From geoffreyf at comcast.net Mon Dec 16 15:39:04 2024 From: geoffreyf at comcast.net (geoffreyf at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 21:39:04 +0000 Subject: [bars] The Eagles In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Who doesn't? Almost everyone knows his professional career as a musician and most Amateurs who pay attention to history of the hobby know his call sign and actually very intense activity as a ham operator. I recommend the nightly quizzes offered on QRZ.com. You will learn of him and many other celebrity amateurs, as well as others who have contributed to the radio arts, where amateur radio has played a role in film and TV too along with much else some of which can inspire further research. Hiram Percy Maxim wrote two books of his life which inspired a feature film called, "A genius in the family". Geoff / W1GCF ________________________________ From: bars on behalf of Juan Jim?nez Sent: Monday, December 16, 2024 12:53 PM Cc: w1hh ; mmra at groups.io Subject: [bars] The Eagles How many of you know crazy Joe Walsh, 77 yrs old and 50th best guitarist in the world according to Rolling Stones top 100 list, and a long time member of The Eagles, is also an Amateur Extra holder and avid HAM radio enthusiast? I found out yesterday. That is very cool. His call sign is WB6ACU. 73, K1CPR Juan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmarcucci at gmail.com Mon Dec 16 19:26:14 2024 From: dmarcucci at gmail.com (David Marcucci) Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2024 20:26:14 -0500 Subject: [bars] Holiday Party? Message-ID: When is the holiday party? I need to get it into my family calendar before a conflict arises. 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I should have searched for the word "party". 2) I went to add it and it was already in my family calendar. Thanks for putting up with my redundant question. As penance, I'll see if I can bring a new ham who is looking to join BARS. I deliver radiograms from the eastern MA traffic net and whenever I get the "Welcome to amateur radio" messages to deliver locally I include a copy of our latest newsletter, and invite to join our weekly nets, a recommendation to join BARS, and some words on why it's important to join a club regardless if it's BARS or not. KC1VVT replied to me and said he was interested in joining. 73, Dave KC1TLF On Tue, Dec 17, 2024 at 8:42?AM Andy Wallace wrote: > It?s in the latest Newsletter - I hope everyone is reading the newsletters! > > [image: preview.png] > > BARSDec2024Newsletter_Web > > PDF Document ? 370 KB > > > > > > 1/15/25 > Great Wall Bedford > 6:30PM > $20 optional Yankee Swap! > > [image: image0.jpeg] > Andy > KA1GTT > > On Dec 16, 2024, at 8:26?PM, David Marcucci wrote: > > ?When is the holiday party? I need to get it into my family calendar > before a conflict arises. > > Thanks, > Dave KC1TLF > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: From richard.heckbert at gmail.com Thu Dec 26 13:46:39 2024 From: richard.heckbert at gmail.com (Richard Heckbert) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 19:46:39 +0000 Subject: [bars] ARRL Membership In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Dan, Congratulations on passing the exam and welcome. This is the info from the BARS newsletter on affiliate memberships Becoming an ARRL member or is your membership up for renewal? One of the benefits of being an ARRL Affiliated Club is a commission for recruiting new ARRL members and securing timely ARRL member renewals. Each new ARRL member earns the club a $15.00 commission. New members are defined as never having been a member or a returning member that has not been a member for two years. Each renewal earns the club a $5.00 commission. There is no limit to the amount a club can earn in this program. Multiyear memberships earn only one commission. Life, Family, International, Blind, and Student memberships are not eligible for a commission. The member will not be eligible to receive a gift or incentive if the club collects a commission on the membership. Currently at least 82 BARS members are also ARRL members. If we all renewed through the club, we could potentially receive $410 per year from the ARRL. If you are interested in renewing your ARRL membership through the club fill out the following form ARRL Affiliated Club Membership Application (pdf). Then forward it to W1LUS at hotmail.com Rick Heckbert, W1OLU From: bars on behalf of daniel wiley Date: Thursday, December 26, 2024 at 12:42?PM To: "bars at w1hh.org" Subject: [bars] ARRL Membership Hi, This is Dan Wiley, KC1VWO, a new member and ham operator. I recently received an invitation to join the ARRL in the mail. I would like to join, but want to ensure BARS receives the credit for my membership when I do. How do I do that, as I do not see anywhere on the paper application where I can indicate BARS membership. Thanks in advance for the advice. Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmarcucci at gmail.com Thu Dec 26 16:03:02 2024 From: dmarcucci at gmail.com (David Marcucci) Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2024 17:03:02 -0500 Subject: [bars] ARRL Membership In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: You need another form too. Bruce recently emailed me this one with the following instructions: To renew through the club please fill out the attached "ARRL membership" > form with your information. > Then fill in the date on the attached "Club Commission Reconciliation" > form. > Mail the two forms to the address at the bottom of the Club Commission > form along with your payment. Welcome to the hobby!! 73, Dave KC1TLF On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 2:47?PM Richard Heckbert wrote: > Hi Dan, > > > > Congratulations on passing the exam and welcome. This is the info from > the BARS newsletter on affiliate memberships > > > > *Becoming an ARRL member or is your membership up for renewal? * > > One of the benefits of being an ARRL Affiliated Club is a commission for > recruiting new ARRL members and securing timely ARRL member renewals. Each > new ARRL member earns the club a $15.00 commission. New members are defined > as never having been a member or a returning member that has not been a > member for two years. Each renewal earns the club a $5.00 commission. There > is no limit to the amount a club can earn in this program. Multiyear > memberships earn only one commission. Life, Family, International, Blind, > and Student memberships are not eligible for a commission. The member will > not be eligible to receive a gift or incentive if the club collects a > commission on the membership. Currently at least 82 BARS members are also > ARRL members. If we all renewed through the club, we could potentially > receive $410 per year from the ARRL. If you are interested in renewing your > ARRL membership through the club fill out the following form ARRL > Affiliated Club Membership Application (pdf) > . > Then forward it to W1LUS at hotmail.com > > > > Rick Heckbert, W1OLU > > > > > > *From: *bars on behalf of daniel wiley < > dan at deepintegrate.com> > *Date: *Thursday, December 26, 2024 at 12:42?PM > *To: *"bars at w1hh.org" > *Subject: *[bars] ARRL Membership > > > > Hi, > > > > This is Dan Wiley, KC1VWO, a new member and ham operator. I recently > received an invitation to join the ARRL in the mail. I would like to join, > but want to ensure BARS receives the credit for my membership when I do. > How do I do that, as I do not see anywhere on the paper application where I > can indicate BARS membership. > > > > > > Thanks in advance for the advice. > > > > Dan > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: ARRL Club Commission Reconciliation Form Filled out Jan 2024.pdf Type: application/pdf Size: 205795 bytes Desc: not available URL: From richard.heckbert at gmail.com Thu Dec 26 23:35:53 2024 From: richard.heckbert at gmail.com (Richard Heckbert) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 05:35:53 +0000 Subject: [bars] New Ham/new Radio recommendations Message-ID: Happy Holidays everyone, I recently got into ham radio after retiring. I purchased a QRZ-1 Explorer handheld soon after getting my license and have been using it to check in to the Wednesday night net. I replaced the stubby antenna with a hamstuff one and seem to be getting out much better but occasionally I still hear ?I think I heard you say . . . ? My thought has always been to get a decent base unit eventually although to be honest I?m not sure if ham radio is for me (but I want to try!) My wife asked for my Christmas list this year and I mentioned several radios that had been recommended on the hamradio and amateur radio subreddits on Reddit. Unfortunately, if you follow those subreddits, you?ll know that for each recommendation asked you?ll get a hundred different suggestions that soon devolve into a Yaesu vs ICOM vs Kenwood battle. My wife was even more overwhelmed than I so rather than purchase one she put aside a budget of $1,000-$1,200 and asked me to purchase it myself. So, I?m not sure what I really want to do specifically, at this point I?d just love to be heard a little better Wednesday nights! I think I?d like a rig that gives me the most options ? a shack in a box as they say. I would also need an antenna and associated wiring although I?m not nearly as spry as I once was and I?m not putting anything in a tree any more. Maybe an attic antenna? I see ARRL has a new Indoor Antenna book out, has anyone looked at it yet? I?d ask on Reddit but I don?t want 100+ different opinions from 100+ fellow Redditors so I figured you all (the local Elmers!) would be a much better place to ask. I did get my Amateur Extra ticket recently so no band restrictions. The rigs I?ve heard mentioned are (in no particular order) Yaesu FTdx-10 (might be too much of a stretch) Yaesu FT-991A (did see a nice used one on one of the forums for $875 shipped) ICOM-7300 But I am definitely open to others. I?ve looked at used rigs but besides less features, there seem to be no bargains in that area! I?ve thought about asking to borrow the club loaner rig but I don?t want to set something up only to have to take it down in a bit ? it wouldn?t be fair to other new users/members to keep it too long (in my opinion). In addition to choosing a rig, I need to choose where to order if from. I primarily research and purchase online. A few places I?ve heard about are Gigaparts, DXEngineering, HRO in Salem, NH, any other good places to buy? I did look on eBay but right now, it seems lower power Japanese versions are the vast majority of offers. I also worry about warranty purchasing on eBay. Just to throw this out, I have a background in electronics courtesy of the USN and I taught electronics at a trade school for a number of years as well as retired from a career in IT so I have this crazy idea that pops up occasionally to build my own gear? Is this even done any more? I feel I might be biting off way more than I can chew with that approach. This might be a dumb question but are the included microphones decent enough? In my way younger CB radio days the mic was the first thing you upgraded So, thanks for taking the time to read through this and many, many thanks to those who take the time to answer (and many thanks to everyone in BARS who also made me feel welcome) 73s, Rick Heckbert W1OLU -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From radiohamateur at gmail.com Fri Dec 27 01:11:47 2024 From: radiohamateur at gmail.com (Richard T) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 02:11:47 -0500 Subject: [bars] New Ham/new Radio recommendations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well Rick, congrats and welcome to the Fraternal order of Ham Radio. You pretty much have most of the research needed. But answer a few questions. 1. What bands interest you? If just 2 Meter ragchewing, a Vhf/Uhf rig may be all you need. Yaesu has many rigs that will serve you well. They have basic to full boat rigs available. If you like HF band work, Yarsu again has a wide choice of rigs, starting with their FT 710 AESS SDR rig or the FTdx10. The Icom 7300 is the Volkswagen of radios, good but now a bit dated. The Yaesu rigs offer more bang for ham buck IMHO. As for antennas, Diamond or Comet are good choices for Vhf/Uhf. For HF look at Palomar Engineers for their wire units, especially their Off Center Fed or their Non Resonant End Fed models. If still unsure, trek up to HRO in Salem NH and play with the display models there and ask a salesman your questions. You may just be happy with a 2 Meter handheld. I own two (!) Baofeng UV 5RM HTs bought on Amazon. The complete pair cost $70. This is two radios, batteries, chargers and three different antennas plus earphone/mic and programming cable. Hope this gives you some ideas and welcome to BARS. RichieT W1RJT On Fri, Dec 27, 2024, 12:36?AM Richard Heckbert wrote: > Happy Holidays everyone, > > > > I recently got into ham radio after retiring. I purchased a QRZ-1 > Explorer handheld soon after getting my license and have been using it to > check in to the Wednesday night net. I replaced the stubby antenna with a > hamstuff one and seem to be getting out much better but occasionally I > still hear ?I think I heard you say . . . ? My thought has always been to > get a decent base unit eventually although to be honest I?m not sure if ham > radio is for me (but I want to try!) My wife asked for my Christmas list > this year and I mentioned several radios that had been recommended on the > hamradio and amateur radio subreddits on Reddit. Unfortunately, if you > follow those subreddits, you?ll know that for each recommendation asked > you?ll get a hundred different suggestions that soon devolve into a Yaesu > vs ICOM vs Kenwood battle. My wife was even more overwhelmed than I so > rather than purchase one she put aside a budget of $1,000-$1,200 and asked > me to purchase it myself. > > > > So, I?m not sure what I really want to do specifically, at this point I?d > just love to be heard a little better Wednesday nights! I think I?d like > a rig that gives me the most options ? a shack in a box as they say. I > would also need an antenna and associated wiring although I?m not nearly as > spry as I once was and I?m not putting anything in a tree any more. Maybe > an attic antenna? I see ARRL has a new Indoor Antenna book out, has anyone > looked at it yet? > > > > I?d ask on Reddit but I don?t want 100+ different opinions from 100+ > fellow Redditors so I figured you all (the local Elmers!) would be a much > better place to ask. I did get my Amateur Extra ticket recently so no band > restrictions. The rigs I?ve heard mentioned are (in no particular order) > > > > Yaesu FTdx-10 (might be too much of a stretch) > > Yaesu FT-991A (did see a nice used one on one of the forums for $875 > shipped) > > ICOM-7300 > > > > But I am definitely open to others. I?ve looked at used rigs but besides > less features, there seem to be no bargains in that area! I?ve thought > about asking to borrow the club loaner rig but I don?t want to set > something up only to have to take it down in a bit ? it wouldn?t be fair to > other new users/members to keep it too long (in my opinion). > > > > In addition to choosing a rig, I need to choose where to order if from. I > primarily research and purchase online. A few places I?ve heard about are > Gigaparts, DXEngineering, HRO in Salem, NH, any other good places to buy? I > did look on eBay but right now, it seems lower power Japanese versions are > the vast majority of offers. I also worry about warranty purchasing on > eBay. > > > > Just to throw this out, I have a background in electronics courtesy of the > USN and I taught electronics at a trade school for a number of years as > well as retired from a career in IT so I have this crazy idea that pops up > occasionally to build my own gear? Is this even done any more? I feel I > might be biting off way more than I can chew with that approach. > > > > This might be a dumb question but are the included microphones decent > enough? In my way younger CB radio days the mic was the first thing you > upgraded > > > > So, thanks for taking the time to read through this and many, many thanks > to those who take the time to answer (and many thanks to everyone in BARS > who also made me feel welcome) > > > > 73s, > > > > Rick Heckbert > > W1OLU > > > > > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From kwaj.speedo at gmail.com Fri Dec 27 09:49:15 2024 From: kwaj.speedo at gmail.com (Christopher Lennon) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 10:49:15 -0500 Subject: [bars] New Ham/new Radio recommendations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: It is good to poke around to figure out what corner(s) of the hobby you want to occupy. With the Explorer you are in the game. The HT I use is a differently branded twin, and it has served me well. Others can help you with the 100W class of radios far more than I can. But you mentioned building your own equipment. If you want to explore that dimension look at kits by QRP Labs. Up until last week my shack consisted of the HT and two 5W CW only radios that I built from QRP Labs kits. Also, if you are unsure if Ham Radio is for you look into Parks On The Air. You can use simple low power small footprint systems because other hams will be hunting for you. Every POTA day is like Field Day! Make sure you go to the upcoming Club dinner! Chris W2BPL Sent from my phone. On Fri, Dec 27, 2024, 2:12?AM Richard T wrote: > Well Rick, congrats and welcome to the Fraternal order of Ham Radio. You > pretty much have most of the research needed. But answer a few questions. > 1. What bands interest you? If just 2 Meter ragchewing, a Vhf/Uhf rig may > be all you need. Yaesu has many rigs that will serve you well. They have > basic to full boat rigs available. If you like HF band work, Yarsu again > has a wide choice of rigs, starting with their FT 710 AESS SDR rig or the > FTdx10. The Icom 7300 is the Volkswagen of radios, good but now a bit > dated. The Yaesu rigs offer more bang for ham buck IMHO. As for antennas, > Diamond or Comet are good choices for Vhf/Uhf. For HF look at Palomar > Engineers for their wire units, especially their Off Center Fed or their > Non Resonant End Fed models. If still unsure, trek up to HRO in Salem NH > and play with the display models there and ask a salesman your questions. > You may just be happy with a 2 Meter handheld. I own two (!) Baofeng UV 5RM > HTs bought on Amazon. The complete pair cost $70. This is two radios, > batteries, chargers and three different antennas plus earphone/mic and > programming cable. Hope this gives you some ideas and welcome to BARS. > RichieT > W1RJT > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2024, 12:36?AM Richard Heckbert < > richard.heckbert at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Happy Holidays everyone, >> >> >> >> I recently got into ham radio after retiring. I purchased a QRZ-1 >> Explorer handheld soon after getting my license and have been using it to >> check in to the Wednesday night net. I replaced the stubby antenna with a >> hamstuff one and seem to be getting out much better but occasionally I >> still hear ?I think I heard you say . . . ? My thought has always been to >> get a decent base unit eventually although to be honest I?m not sure if ham >> radio is for me (but I want to try!) My wife asked for my Christmas list >> this year and I mentioned several radios that had been recommended on the >> hamradio and amateur radio subreddits on Reddit. Unfortunately, if you >> follow those subreddits, you?ll know that for each recommendation asked >> you?ll get a hundred different suggestions that soon devolve into a Yaesu >> vs ICOM vs Kenwood battle. My wife was even more overwhelmed than I so >> rather than purchase one she put aside a budget of $1,000-$1,200 and asked >> me to purchase it myself. >> >> >> >> So, I?m not sure what I really want to do specifically, at this point I?d >> just love to be heard a little better Wednesday nights! I think I?d like >> a rig that gives me the most options ? a shack in a box as they say. I >> would also need an antenna and associated wiring although I?m not nearly as >> spry as I once was and I?m not putting anything in a tree any more. Maybe >> an attic antenna? I see ARRL has a new Indoor Antenna book out, has anyone >> looked at it yet? >> >> >> >> I?d ask on Reddit but I don?t want 100+ different opinions from 100+ >> fellow Redditors so I figured you all (the local Elmers!) would be a much >> better place to ask. I did get my Amateur Extra ticket recently so no band >> restrictions. The rigs I?ve heard mentioned are (in no particular order) >> >> >> >> Yaesu FTdx-10 (might be too much of a stretch) >> >> Yaesu FT-991A (did see a nice used one on one of the forums for $875 >> shipped) >> >> ICOM-7300 >> >> >> >> But I am definitely open to others. I?ve looked at used rigs but besides >> less features, there seem to be no bargains in that area! I?ve thought >> about asking to borrow the club loaner rig but I don?t want to set >> something up only to have to take it down in a bit ? it wouldn?t be fair to >> other new users/members to keep it too long (in my opinion). >> >> >> >> In addition to choosing a rig, I need to choose where to order if from. >> I primarily research and purchase online. A few places I?ve heard about >> are Gigaparts, DXEngineering, HRO in Salem, NH, any other good places to >> buy? I did look on eBay but right now, it seems lower power Japanese >> versions are the vast majority of offers. I also worry about warranty >> purchasing on eBay. >> >> >> >> Just to throw this out, I have a background in electronics courtesy of >> the USN and I taught electronics at a trade school for a number of years as >> well as retired from a career in IT so I have this crazy idea that pops up >> occasionally to build my own gear? Is this even done any more? I feel I >> might be biting off way more than I can chew with that approach. >> >> >> >> This might be a dumb question but are the included microphones decent >> enough? In my way younger CB radio days the mic was the first thing you >> upgraded >> >> >> >> So, thanks for taking the time to read through this and many, many thanks >> to those who take the time to answer (and many thanks to everyone in BARS >> who also made me feel welcome) >> >> >> >> 73s, >> >> >> >> Rick Heckbert >> >> W1OLU >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> bars mailing list >> bars at w1hh.org >> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org >> > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dmarcucci at gmail.com Fri Dec 27 13:33:13 2024 From: dmarcucci at gmail.com (David Marcucci) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 14:33:13 -0500 Subject: [bars] New Ham/new Radio recommendations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Rick, I'm still fairly new, licensed in September of 2023. The best thing I did was borrow the BARS loaner HF rig. It gave me practical experience on HF before I committed to a rig. I would also get a cheap VHF/UHF mobile rig and learn what you do or don't like about it. You can also experience having a separate HF and VHF/UHF rig and see if you use both at the same time. These things helped me immensely when I went to buy more expensive equipment, especially the HF rig. I was able to learn what features I needed on my rig and which I needed quick access to, as some are buried in menus on the newer rigs. The other thing I'd say is to figure out what you like doing on the air and make a list of activities. For example, do you like talking to people, do you like getting points for doing stuff, do you want to be able to go mobile with your hf rig or operate in a field, do you want to connect a computer and do communicate non-voice. Personally, I got into radio because I have a background in computer science and wanted to see how radio and computer communication meshed so I knew I wanted a rig with a USB port and the ability to control it via the computer. I also wanted to build antennas so I built a 2 meter and 10 meter dipole and put them in my attic which DRASTICALLY improved my ability to get into VHF/UHF repeaters. I also found out I liked talking to people on VHF/UHF while working HF so we could compare signal reports or try to both hit the same stations so a "shack in the box" was out. Once you know what you think you want, schedule a few hours to go to HRO in Salem and use some radios. I sat there for over an hour working the three rigs I thought I wanted but I had the ability to see how they did very specific things because of my experience. I bought mine at HRO because the price was as good as online and they are a helpful group up there. I hope this helps. I know it doesn't provide the answer to the question you asked, but as you may have already figured out, there is no right answer. Good luck and 73! Dave KC1TLF On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 10:49?AM Christopher Lennon wrote: > It is good to poke around to figure out what corner(s) of the hobby you > want to occupy. > > With the Explorer you are in the game. The HT I use is a differently > branded twin, and it has served me well. Others can help you with the 100W > class of radios far more than I can. But you mentioned building your own > equipment. If you want to explore that dimension look at kits by QRP > Labs. Up until last week my shack consisted of the HT and two 5W CW only > radios that I built from QRP Labs kits. > > Also, if you are unsure if Ham Radio is for you look into Parks On The > Air. You can use simple low power small footprint systems because other > hams will be hunting for you. Every POTA day is like Field Day! > > Make sure you go to the upcoming Club dinner! > > Chris W2BPL > Sent from my phone. > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2024, 2:12?AM Richard T wrote: > >> Well Rick, congrats and welcome to the Fraternal order of Ham Radio. You >> pretty much have most of the research needed. But answer a few questions. >> 1. What bands interest you? If just 2 Meter ragchewing, a Vhf/Uhf rig may >> be all you need. Yaesu has many rigs that will serve you well. They have >> basic to full boat rigs available. If you like HF band work, Yarsu again >> has a wide choice of rigs, starting with their FT 710 AESS SDR rig or the >> FTdx10. The Icom 7300 is the Volkswagen of radios, good but now a bit >> dated. The Yaesu rigs offer more bang for ham buck IMHO. As for antennas, >> Diamond or Comet are good choices for Vhf/Uhf. For HF look at Palomar >> Engineers for their wire units, especially their Off Center Fed or their >> Non Resonant End Fed models. If still unsure, trek up to HRO in Salem NH >> and play with the display models there and ask a salesman your questions. >> You may just be happy with a 2 Meter handheld. I own two (!) Baofeng UV 5RM >> HTs bought on Amazon. The complete pair cost $70. This is two radios, >> batteries, chargers and three different antennas plus earphone/mic and >> programming cable. Hope this gives you some ideas and welcome to BARS. >> RichieT >> W1RJT >> >> On Fri, Dec 27, 2024, 12:36?AM Richard Heckbert < >> richard.heckbert at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Happy Holidays everyone, >>> >>> >>> >>> I recently got into ham radio after retiring. I purchased a QRZ-1 >>> Explorer handheld soon after getting my license and have been using it to >>> check in to the Wednesday night net. I replaced the stubby antenna with a >>> hamstuff one and seem to be getting out much better but occasionally I >>> still hear ?I think I heard you say . . . ? My thought has always been to >>> get a decent base unit eventually although to be honest I?m not sure if ham >>> radio is for me (but I want to try!) My wife asked for my Christmas list >>> this year and I mentioned several radios that had been recommended on the >>> hamradio and amateur radio subreddits on Reddit. Unfortunately, if you >>> follow those subreddits, you?ll know that for each recommendation asked >>> you?ll get a hundred different suggestions that soon devolve into a Yaesu >>> vs ICOM vs Kenwood battle. My wife was even more overwhelmed than I so >>> rather than purchase one she put aside a budget of $1,000-$1,200 and asked >>> me to purchase it myself. >>> >>> >>> >>> So, I?m not sure what I really want to do specifically, at this point >>> I?d just love to be heard a little better Wednesday nights! I think I?d >>> like a rig that gives me the most options ? a shack in a box as they say. >>> I would also need an antenna and associated wiring although I?m not nearly >>> as spry as I once was and I?m not putting anything in a tree any more. >>> Maybe an attic antenna? I see ARRL has a new Indoor Antenna book out, has >>> anyone looked at it yet? >>> >>> >>> >>> I?d ask on Reddit but I don?t want 100+ different opinions from 100+ >>> fellow Redditors so I figured you all (the local Elmers!) would be a much >>> better place to ask. I did get my Amateur Extra ticket recently so no band >>> restrictions. The rigs I?ve heard mentioned are (in no particular order) >>> >>> >>> >>> Yaesu FTdx-10 (might be too much of a stretch) >>> >>> Yaesu FT-991A (did see a nice used one on one of the forums for $875 >>> shipped) >>> >>> ICOM-7300 >>> >>> >>> >>> But I am definitely open to others. I?ve looked at used rigs but >>> besides less features, there seem to be no bargains in that area! I?ve >>> thought about asking to borrow the club loaner rig but I don?t want to set >>> something up only to have to take it down in a bit ? it wouldn?t be fair to >>> other new users/members to keep it too long (in my opinion). >>> >>> >>> >>> In addition to choosing a rig, I need to choose where to order if from. >>> I primarily research and purchase online. A few places I?ve heard about >>> are Gigaparts, DXEngineering, HRO in Salem, NH, any other good places to >>> buy? I did look on eBay but right now, it seems lower power Japanese >>> versions are the vast majority of offers. I also worry about warranty >>> purchasing on eBay. >>> >>> >>> >>> Just to throw this out, I have a background in electronics courtesy of >>> the USN and I taught electronics at a trade school for a number of years as >>> well as retired from a career in IT so I have this crazy idea that pops up >>> occasionally to build my own gear? Is this even done any more? I feel I >>> might be biting off way more than I can chew with that approach. >>> >>> >>> >>> This might be a dumb question but are the included microphones decent >>> enough? In my way younger CB radio days the mic was the first thing you >>> upgraded >>> >>> >>> >>> So, thanks for taking the time to read through this and many, many >>> thanks to those who take the time to answer (and many thanks to everyone in >>> BARS who also made me feel welcome) >>> >>> >>> >>> 73s, >>> >>> >>> >>> Rick Heckbert >>> >>> W1OLU >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> bars mailing list >>> bars at w1hh.org >>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> bars mailing list >> bars at w1hh.org >> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org >> > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k1cpr at bd5.com Fri Dec 27 14:39:45 2024 From: k1cpr at bd5.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Juan_Jim=C3=A9nez?=) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 15:39:45 -0500 Subject: [bars] New Ham/new Radio recommendations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: The Yaesu FT-991A will do everything you could ever want to do in HF & VHF/UHF in a compact package you can easily go mobile with of you want to, or operate as your base. If you want to do digital modes it has a built in USB interface and sound card. With two outputs you can hook up a J-Pole antenna and an HF antenna separately. The built in antenna tuner means you don't need to spend extra money for that. You really can't go wrong with it. I absolutely love mine. 73, K1CPR Joan On Fri, Dec 27, 2024, 00:35 Richard Heckbert wrote: > Happy Holidays everyone, > > > > I recently got into ham radio after retiring. I purchased a QRZ-1 > Explorer handheld soon after getting my license and have been using it to > check in to the Wednesday night net. I replaced the stubby antenna with a > hamstuff one and seem to be getting out much better but occasionally I > still hear ?I think I heard you say . . . ? My thought has always been to > get a decent base unit eventually although to be honest I?m not sure if ham > radio is for me (but I want to try!) My wife asked for my Christmas list > this year and I mentioned several radios that had been recommended on the > hamradio and amateur radio subreddits on Reddit. Unfortunately, if you > follow those subreddits, you?ll know that for each recommendation asked > you?ll get a hundred different suggestions that soon devolve into a Yaesu > vs ICOM vs Kenwood battle. My wife was even more overwhelmed than I so > rather than purchase one she put aside a budget of $1,000-$1,200 and asked > me to purchase it myself. > > > > So, I?m not sure what I really want to do specifically, at this point I?d > just love to be heard a little better Wednesday nights! I think I?d like > a rig that gives me the most options ? a shack in a box as they say. I > would also need an antenna and associated wiring although I?m not nearly as > spry as I once was and I?m not putting anything in a tree any more. Maybe > an attic antenna? I see ARRL has a new Indoor Antenna book out, has anyone > looked at it yet? > > > > I?d ask on Reddit but I don?t want 100+ different opinions from 100+ > fellow Redditors so I figured you all (the local Elmers!) would be a much > better place to ask. I did get my Amateur Extra ticket recently so no band > restrictions. The rigs I?ve heard mentioned are (in no particular order) > > > > Yaesu FTdx-10 (might be too much of a stretch) > > Yaesu FT-991A (did see a nice used one on one of the forums for $875 > shipped) > > ICOM-7300 > > > > But I am definitely open to others. I?ve looked at used rigs but besides > less features, there seem to be no bargains in that area! I?ve thought > about asking to borrow the club loaner rig but I don?t want to set > something up only to have to take it down in a bit ? it wouldn?t be fair to > other new users/members to keep it too long (in my opinion). > > > > In addition to choosing a rig, I need to choose where to order if from. I > primarily research and purchase online. A few places I?ve heard about are > Gigaparts, DXEngineering, HRO in Salem, NH, any other good places to buy? I > did look on eBay but right now, it seems lower power Japanese versions are > the vast majority of offers. I also worry about warranty purchasing on > eBay. > > > > Just to throw this out, I have a background in electronics courtesy of the > USN and I taught electronics at a trade school for a number of years as > well as retired from a career in IT so I have this crazy idea that pops up > occasionally to build my own gear? Is this even done any more? I feel I > might be biting off way more than I can chew with that approach. > > > > This might be a dumb question but are the included microphones decent > enough? In my way younger CB radio days the mic was the first thing you > upgraded > > > > So, thanks for taking the time to read through this and many, many thanks > to those who take the time to answer (and many thanks to everyone in BARS > who also made me feel welcome) > > > > 73s, > > > > Rick Heckbert > > W1OLU > > > > > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From jim at k1ir.com Fri Dec 27 14:55:28 2024 From: jim at k1ir.com (Jim Idelson) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2024 15:55:28 -0500 Subject: [bars] New Ham/new Radio recommendations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Following up on Richie's comments, you should go down a path of exploring areas that interest you. Have you been able to get some first-hand exposure to any of the many different potential activities you could try? As I'm writing this note, I literally just remembered that I have a radio for sale that could be an option for you. It's a Yaesu FT-847. It is truly the shack-in-a-box that you are thinking about. It can be computer-controlled and it can operate from 160m to 70cm (except 60m). You will need a separate computer interface to do the digital modes, but that's not hard. It also works as a satellite ground station, if that is of any interest. If you have a budget of $1000-1200, the price of this radio would leave you some hundreds to spend on other accessories that you will definitely need - power supply, antenna(s) and feedline(s). Contact me directly if interested, Rick. 73 Jim K1IR On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:12?AM Richard T wrote: > Well Rick, congrats and welcome to the Fraternal order of Ham Radio. You > pretty much have most of the research needed. But answer a few questions. > 1. What bands interest you? If just 2 Meter ragchewing, a Vhf/Uhf rig may > be all you need. Yaesu has many rigs that will serve you well. They have > basic to full boat rigs available. If you like HF band work, Yarsu again > has a wide choice of rigs, starting with their FT 710 AESS SDR rig or the > FTdx10. The Icom 7300 is the Volkswagen of radios, good but now a bit > dated. The Yaesu rigs offer more bang for ham buck IMHO. As for antennas, > Diamond or Comet are good choices for Vhf/Uhf. For HF look at Palomar > Engineers for their wire units, especially their Off Center Fed or their > Non Resonant End Fed models. If still unsure, trek up to HRO in Salem NH > and play with the display models there and ask a salesman your questions. > You may just be happy with a 2 Meter handheld. I own two (!) Baofeng UV 5RM > HTs bought on Amazon. The complete pair cost $70. This is two radios, > batteries, chargers and three different antennas plus earphone/mic and > programming cable. Hope this gives you some ideas and welcome to BARS. > RichieT > W1RJT > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2024, 12:36?AM Richard Heckbert < > richard.heckbert at gmail.com> wrote: > >> Happy Holidays everyone, >> >> >> >> I recently got into ham radio after retiring. I purchased a QRZ-1 >> Explorer handheld soon after getting my license and have been using it to >> check in to the Wednesday night net. I replaced the stubby antenna with a >> hamstuff one and seem to be getting out much better but occasionally I >> still hear ?I think I heard you say . . . ? My thought has always been to >> get a decent base unit eventually although to be honest I?m not sure if ham >> radio is for me (but I want to try!) My wife asked for my Christmas list >> this year and I mentioned several radios that had been recommended on the >> hamradio and amateur radio subreddits on Reddit. Unfortunately, if you >> follow those subreddits, you?ll know that for each recommendation asked >> you?ll get a hundred different suggestions that soon devolve into a Yaesu >> vs ICOM vs Kenwood battle. My wife was even more overwhelmed than I so >> rather than purchase one she put aside a budget of $1,000-$1,200 and asked >> me to purchase it myself. >> >> >> >> So, I?m not sure what I really want to do specifically, at this point I?d >> just love to be heard a little better Wednesday nights! I think I?d like >> a rig that gives me the most options ? a shack in a box as they say. I >> would also need an antenna and associated wiring although I?m not nearly as >> spry as I once was and I?m not putting anything in a tree any more. Maybe >> an attic antenna? I see ARRL has a new Indoor Antenna book out, has anyone >> looked at it yet? >> >> >> >> I?d ask on Reddit but I don?t want 100+ different opinions from 100+ >> fellow Redditors so I figured you all (the local Elmers!) would be a much >> better place to ask. I did get my Amateur Extra ticket recently so no band >> restrictions. The rigs I?ve heard mentioned are (in no particular order) >> >> >> >> Yaesu FTdx-10 (might be too much of a stretch) >> >> Yaesu FT-991A (did see a nice used one on one of the forums for $875 >> shipped) >> >> ICOM-7300 >> >> >> >> But I am definitely open to others. I?ve looked at used rigs but besides >> less features, there seem to be no bargains in that area! I?ve thought >> about asking to borrow the club loaner rig but I don?t want to set >> something up only to have to take it down in a bit ? it wouldn?t be fair to >> other new users/members to keep it too long (in my opinion). >> >> >> >> In addition to choosing a rig, I need to choose where to order if from. >> I primarily research and purchase online. A few places I?ve heard about >> are Gigaparts, DXEngineering, HRO in Salem, NH, any other good places to >> buy? I did look on eBay but right now, it seems lower power Japanese >> versions are the vast majority of offers. I also worry about warranty >> purchasing on eBay. >> >> >> >> Just to throw this out, I have a background in electronics courtesy of >> the USN and I taught electronics at a trade school for a number of years as >> well as retired from a career in IT so I have this crazy idea that pops up >> occasionally to build my own gear? Is this even done any more? 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Geoff / W1GCF ________________________________ From: bars on behalf of Juan Jim?nez Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2024 3:47 PM Subject: [bars] Radio Book Picked up a copy of The Radio Handbook, 1938 edition, for a couple of bucks several weeks ago. I started reading it today and realized it beats the ARRL handbooks by a long mile. Easy to read, concepts well-explained. $1.50 in 1938 would be $31.95 today. [Radio Handbook 1938.jpg] 73, K1CPR Juan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Radio Handbook 1938.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 267441 bytes Desc: Radio Handbook 1938.jpg URL: From trilsys at yahoo.com Sun Dec 29 21:33:55 2024 From: trilsys at yahoo.com (Edward Lipchus) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 03:33:55 +0000 (UTC) Subject: [bars] Radio Book In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1358490068.6928689.1735529635918@mail.yahoo.com> I hesitated to add my two cents, because I felt a dismissive tone to your comment. I apologize if that was not the case. Regarding what you said, all you said is true. Otoh, basics are still basics - a triode amp is still a triode amp whether a tube or a transistor. A tuned circuit is still a tuned circuit. A center-fed dipole is still... ditto. Same for rectifier circuits, parallel and series resistors and capacitors (omg, does anyone still use discrete components ?). And well-written books were created even 85 years ago. I still periodically refer to a calculus text I inherited from my father. Now, if I could somehow get that text in a .pdf file so I could access it on my tablet using my personal VPN. Ed Lipchus KC1DBG On Sunday, December 29, 2024 at 04:35:51 PM EST, geoffreyf--- via bars wrote: What are the chapters on SSB, Solid State circuits, FET's, digital modes, automatic tuners, antenna analyzers, satellite contacts, Spread spectrum, SDR, Method of moments antenna analysis. Digital signal processors ... what kind of feedlines does it cover? It's easier to write a handbook when half the stuff hasn't been discovered yet.? Now that everything is simplified for you - have you tried to get the rigs and parts that are simplified for your understanding? What exactly did you learn from it that is of use to you or anyone else? Geoff / W1GCF From:?bars on behalf of Juan Jim?nez Sent:?Sunday, December 29, 2024 3:47 PM Subject:?[bars] Radio Book?Picked up a copy of The Radio Handbook, 1938 edition, for a couple of bucks several weeks ago. I started reading it today and realized it beats the ARRL handbooks by a long mile. Easy to read, concepts well-explained. $1.50 in 1938 would be $31.95 today.? 73,K1CPRJuan_______________________________________________ bars mailing list bars at w1hh.org http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Radio Handbook 1938.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 267441 bytes Desc: not available URL: From apizer at comcast.net Mon Dec 30 08:38:56 2024 From: apizer at comcast.net (apizer at comcast.net) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 09:38:56 -0500 Subject: [bars] Radio Book In-Reply-To: <1358490068.6928689.1735529635918@mail.yahoo.com> References: <1358490068.6928689.1735529635918@mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <027401db5ac8$8fdbb020$af931060$@comcast.net> I second the opinions on the value of older reference material though I have not read this text. The basic laws of physics, energy transfer, and math have not changed. No matter what the technology is ?in between?, it is acoustics that drive the microphone and electromagnetics that drive the antenna. A joule is still a watt-second and power is still dissipated as heat if not transferred to the load. Here is a controversial thought - - maybe folks were just smarter back then because the had to be - - things were not handed to them on ?silver platter? as they are today. I have spent 45 + years mentoring colleagues on the nuances of RF test and measurement and it starts with the basics. Art NF1A From: bars On Behalf Of Edward Lipchus via bars Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2024 10:34 PM To: Juan Jim?nez ; geoffreyf at comcast.net; W1hh Subject: Re: [bars] Radio Book I hesitated to add my two cents, because I felt a dismissive tone to your comment. I apologize if that was not the case. Regarding what you said, all you said is true. Otoh, basics are still basics - a triode amp is still a triode amp whether a tube or a transistor. A tuned circuit is still a tuned circuit. A center-fed dipole is still... ditto. Same for rectifier circuits, parallel and series resistors and capacitors (omg, does anyone still use discrete components ?). And well-written books were created even 85 years ago. I still periodically refer to a calculus text I inherited from my father. Now, if I could somehow get that text in a .pdf file so I could access it on my tablet using my personal VPN. Ed Lipchus KC1DBG On Sunday, December 29, 2024 at 04:35:51 PM EST, geoffreyf--- via bars > wrote: What are the chapters on SSB, Solid State circuits, FET's, digital modes, automatic tuners, antenna analyzers, satellite contacts, Spread spectrum, SDR, Method of moments antenna analysis. Digital signal processors ... what kind of feedlines does it cover? It's easier to write a handbook when half the stuff hasn't been discovered yet. Now that everything is simplified for you - have you tried to get the rigs and parts that are simplified for your understanding? What exactly did you learn from it that is of use to you or anyone else? Geoff / W1GCF _____ From: bars > on behalf of Juan Jim?nez > Sent: Sunday, December 29, 2024 3:47 PM Subject: [bars] Radio Book Picked up a copy of The Radio Handbook, 1938 edition, for a couple of bucks several weeks ago. I started reading it today and realized it beats the ARRL handbooks by a long mile. Easy to read, concepts well-explained. $1.50 in 1938 would be $31.95 today. 73, K1CPR Juan _______________________________________________ bars mailing list bars at w1hh.org http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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On Mon, Dec 30, 2024, 13:48 Andy Wallace wrote: > Juan, bravo for finding this great book. And cheap, too. > > Folks, you can read the entire PDF at the link below. My favorite sections > are the receiver and transmitter construction. > > See the 1938 Frank C. Jones Radio Handbook here: > > ENGINEERING HANDBOOKS MISCELLANEOUS: Radio engineering reference books > > worldradiohistory.com > > [image: apple-touch-icon-precomposed.png] > > > > Main site: > > Radio Music Electronics Publications ALL FREE > > worldradiohistory.com > [image: Radio Business Report.jpg] > > > > (The person behind World Radio History deserves an award for scanning in > thousands of radio books and magazines. You can spend days exploring here.) > > I?m a BARS member who enjoys using and fixing old gear. What Juan has > discovered is the appeal of what came before. Before FT8. Before FM and > repeaters. Even before single sideband. > > Sometimes I feel like I am one of the few club members left who knows how > to solder. > > Does 468/f(MHz) mean anything to you? Regardless of when you got your > license, it should! And it?s in the 1938 Jones handbook. It?s the length of > a half wave dipole. So you should know if you?re going out to operate Parks > on the Air you might need supports 66 feet apart to operate 40m?.so maybe > 33? on 20m might be wiser. > > In 1938 it had been about a decade since hams were thrown off what?s now > the AM broadcast band to operate ?200 meters and down? - HF. People didn?t > realize they gave us the bands which would allow easy worldwide > communication by skywave and the ionosphere. > > Things were still being discovered and invented in radio in 1938. Look at > that Handbook and you?ll see construction articles where a handful of parts > got you on the air. Simple receivers. Simple transmitters. It?s like making > an iPhone in your basement in 2005. 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I ended up teaching electronics at a local trade school for a few years after getting out of the Navy and for some reason I had the least dropout rate (and trade schools are all about fannies in seats) so I taught the intro to electronics module most classes (lather, rinse, repeat). One of the skills taught in intro was soldering. Best way to learn a skill is to teach it! I remember the Iranian students well ? they would do anything to extend their stay and most if not all of them had way more money than brains (or so they tried to appear). NAS Memphis was actually great duty. I had just turned 19 and had a motorcycle that I went all over that corner of Tennessee (as well as Mississippi and over the bridge to Arkansas) on. Andy, You mention hams were prohibited from using what is now the AM broadcast band. Weren?t hams thrown completely off the air shortly after 1938? I thought I read WW II put a complete kibosh on ham radio. Everything prewar was different including call letter format. From what I?ve read, ham radio really took off post-war with a lot of surplus radio equipment and a lot of ex-military trained on radio equipment. I?m amazed they were able to work the old equipment as well as they did. Rick W1OLU From: bars on behalf of Juan Jim?nez Date: Monday, December 30, 2024 at 6:48?PM To: w1hh Subject: [bars] Fwd: Radio Book ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Juan Jim?nez > Date: Mon, Dec 30, 2024, 16:36 Subject: Re: [bars] Radio Book To: Andy Wallace > "Sometimes I feel like I am one of the few club members left who knows how to solder." You're not. I graduated from the Naval Air Technical Training Center in Millington TN in 1979. We were taught how to solder, with lots of practice. I finished quickly near the top of my class. Not the Iranian officer candidates. Those kids took a minimum of two weeks to get through the initial one day Basic Aviation Introduction. One of them crashed an RV on a clear sunny day with no traffic. Told the officers the autopilot didn't work. There's your sign... ? On Mon, Dec 30, 2024, 13:48 Andy Wallace > wrote: Juan, bravo for finding this great book. And cheap, too. Folks, you can read the entire PDF at the link below. My favorite sections are the receiver and transmitter construction. See the 1938 Frank C. Jones Radio Handbook here: ENGINEERING HANDBOOKS MISCELLANEOUS: Radio engineering reference books worldradiohistory.com Error! Filename not specified. Main site: Radio Music Electronics Publications ALL FREE worldradiohistory.com Error! Filename not specified. (The person behind World Radio History deserves an award for scanning in thousands of radio books and magazines. You can spend days exploring here.) I?m a BARS member who enjoys using and fixing old gear. What Juan has discovered is the appeal of what came before. Before FT8. Before FM and repeaters. Even before single sideband. Sometimes I feel like I am one of the few club members left who knows how to solder. Does 468/f(MHz) mean anything to you? Regardless of when you got your license, it should! And it?s in the 1938 Jones handbook. It?s the length of a half wave dipole. So you should know if you?re going out to operate Parks on the Air you might need supports 66 feet apart to operate 40m?.so maybe 33? on 20m might be wiser. In 1938 it had been about a decade since hams were thrown off what?s now the AM broadcast band to operate ?200 meters and down? - HF. People didn?t realize they gave us the bands which would allow easy worldwide communication by skywave and the ionosphere. Things were still being discovered and invented in radio in 1938. Look at that Handbook and you?ll see construction articles where a handful of parts got you on the air. Simple receivers. Simple transmitters. It?s like making an iPhone in your basement in 2005. High tech. We learn by what came before. That?s important. Even in a day when Venmo buys you a carton full of electronics to do FT8. Andy KA1GTT Dec 29, 2024, at 4:03?PM, Juan Jim?nez > wrote: ? Picked up a copy of The Radio Handbook, 1938 edition, for a couple of bucks several weeks ago. I started reading it today and realized it beats the ARRL handbooks by a long mile. Easy to read, concepts well-explained. $1.50 in 1938 would be $31.95 today. Error! Filename not specified. 73, K1CPR Juan _______________________________________________ bars mailing list bars at w1hh.org http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From michaelecreech at gmail.com Mon Dec 30 22:15:16 2024 From: michaelecreech at gmail.com (Michael Creech) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 23:15:16 -0500 Subject: [bars] Radio Book In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k1cpr at bd5.com Mon Dec 30 22:15:40 2024 From: k1cpr at bd5.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Juan_Jim=C3=A9nez?=) Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2024 23:15:40 -0500 Subject: [bars] Fwd: Radio Book In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Small world. I arrived at Millington just after New Year's 1979. Probably missed you as you were packing up. I finished Marine boot in December 78, went home to Puerto Rico for a couple of weeks, totally confused at all the women now hitting on me whom I thought just three months earlier would not have cared if I existed. That was weird, but fun. ? Remember the bar.... err... dive just to the road from the base entrance run by that tall, blonde, leggy woman who looked like she'd been around the planet a few times, let alone the block? I was told that a few weeks after I left the joint was subjected to the "blue jean liberty" treatment after some sailors got beat up by some bikers. Darn near razed to the ground. I would have loved to see that. Most people I know think blue jean liberty is a myth. I have an Iranian brother in law who came here as a kid after the Shah was deposed. Amazing engineer, graduated from Cornell, great husband and father. I told him the story, and he confirmed those kids at Millington were the children of rich or influential people who were given the privilege of coming to the US to learn how to maintain the F-14A's we sold them. I would be willing to wager some of them are now running the shops somehow keeping them airworthy with the help of the Russians and other friendly countries. Ironically, my first defense contractor job was with Hughes Aircraft CO's radar systems group, working on the 2nd generation radar upgrade for the F-14. Two years out of boot with no degree and I was hired as a Member of the Engineering Staff. One of my colleagues at Raytheon turns out to have also worked on that program at the same time. He stayed there, I bounced all over the planet. The world is tiny. Smaller than most people imagine. ? 73, Juan K1CPR On Mon, Dec 30, 2024, 20:12 Richard Heckbert wrote: > Juan, > > > > I also spent time learning soldering in lovely Millington. I was a little > before you (Feb 78 ? Dec 78). I can attest to the quality of soldering > taught there. I ended up working repairing black boxes (actually, mostly > gray!) in the fleet and we only had 1 tech qualified/permitted to solder > aircraft equipment in the whole workcenter so I got tagged to go to > soldering school and become his backup. I ended up teaching electronics at > a local trade school for a few years after getting out of the Navy and for > some reason I had the least dropout rate (and trade schools are all about > fannies in seats) so I taught the intro to electronics module most classes > (lather, rinse, repeat). One of the skills taught in intro was soldering. > Best way to learn a skill is to teach it! > > > > I remember the Iranian students well ? they would do anything to extend > their stay and most if not all of them had way more money than brains (or > so they tried to appear). > > > > NAS Memphis was actually great duty. I had just turned 19 and had a > motorcycle that I went all over that corner of Tennessee (as well as > Mississippi and over the bridge to Arkansas) on. > > > > Andy, > > > > You mention hams were prohibited from using what is now the AM broadcast > band. Weren?t hams thrown completely off the air shortly after 1938? I > thought I read WW II put a complete kibosh on ham radio. Everything prewar > was different including call letter format. From what I?ve read, ham radio > really took off post-war with a lot of surplus radio equipment and a lot of > ex-military trained on radio equipment. I?m amazed they were able to work > the old equipment as well as they did. > > > > Rick > > W1OLU > > > > *From: *bars on behalf of Juan Jim?nez < > k1cpr at bd5.com> > *Date: *Monday, December 30, 2024 at 6:48?PM > *To: *w1hh > *Subject: *[bars] Fwd: Radio Book > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message --------- > From: *Juan Jim?nez* > Date: Mon, Dec 30, 2024, 16:36 > Subject: Re: [bars] Radio Book > To: Andy Wallace > > > > "Sometimes I feel like I am one of the few club members left who knows > how to solder." > > > > You're not. I graduated from the Naval Air Technical Training Center in > Millington TN in 1979. We were taught how to solder, with lots of practice. > I finished quickly near the top of my class. Not the Iranian officer > candidates. Those kids took a minimum of two weeks to get through the > initial one day Basic Aviation Introduction. One of them crashed an RV on > a clear sunny day with no traffic. Told the officers the autopilot didn't > work. There's your sign... ? > > > > On Mon, Dec 30, 2024, 13:48 Andy Wallace wrote: > > Juan, bravo for finding this great book. And cheap, too. > > > > Folks, you can read the entire PDF at the link below. My favorite sections > are the receiver and transmitter construction. > > > > See the 1938 Frank C. Jones Radio Handbook here: > > > > *ENGINEERING HANDBOOKS MISCELLANEOUS: Radio engineering reference books > * > > *worldradiohistory.com > * > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > > > > > Main site: > > > > *Radio Music Electronics Publications ALL FREE > * > > *worldradiohistory.com * > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > > > > > (The person behind World Radio History deserves an award for scanning in > thousands of radio books and magazines. You can spend days exploring here.) > > > > I?m a BARS member who enjoys using and fixing old gear. What Juan has > discovered is the appeal of what came before. Before FT8. Before FM and > repeaters. Even before single sideband. > > > > Sometimes I feel like I am one of the few club members left who knows how > to solder. > > > > Does 468/f(MHz) mean anything to you? Regardless of when you got your > license, it should! And it?s in the 1938 Jones handbook. It?s the length of > a half wave dipole. So you should know if you?re going out to operate Parks > on the Air you might need supports 66 feet apart to operate 40m?.so maybe > 33? on 20m might be wiser. > > > > In 1938 it had been about a decade since hams were thrown off what?s now > the AM broadcast band to operate ?200 meters and down? - HF. People didn?t > realize they gave us the bands which would allow easy worldwide > communication by skywave and the ionosphere. > > > > Things were still being discovered and invented in radio in 1938. Look at > that Handbook and you?ll see construction articles where a handful of parts > got you on the air. Simple receivers. Simple transmitters. It?s like making > an iPhone in your basement in 2005. High tech. > > > > We learn by what came before. That?s important. Even in a day when Venmo > buys you a carton full of electronics to do FT8. > > > > Andy > > KA1GTT > > > > > > > > > > Dec 29, 2024, at 4:03?PM, Juan Jim?nez wrote: > > > > ? > > Picked up a copy of The Radio Handbook, 1938 edition, for a couple of > bucks several weeks ago. I started reading it today and realized it beats > the ARRL handbooks by a long mile. Easy to read, concepts well-explained. > $1.50 in 1938 would be $31.95 today. > > > > *Error! Filename not specified.* > > > > 73, > > K1CPR > > Juan > > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From k1cpr at bd5.com Mon Dec 30 23:41:54 2024 From: k1cpr at bd5.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Juan_Jim=C3=A9nez?=) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2024 00:41:54 -0500 Subject: [bars] Fwd: Radio Book In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: " Two years out of boot with no degree and I was hired as a Member of the Engineering Staff." Correction, two years out of the end of my tour in 1982. I was hired in 1984, at the end of Reagan's term. 73, K1CPR Juan On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:15?PM Juan Jim?nez wrote: > Small world. I arrived at Millington just after New Year's 1979. Probably > missed you as you were packing up. I finished Marine boot in December 78, > went home to Puerto Rico for a couple of weeks, totally confused at all the > women now hitting on me whom I thought just three months earlier would not > have cared if I existed. That was weird, but fun. ? > > Remember the bar.... err... dive just to the road from the base entrance > run by that tall, blonde, leggy woman who looked like she'd been around the > planet a few times, let alone the block? I was told that a few weeks after > I left the joint was subjected to the "blue jean liberty" treatment after > some sailors got beat up by some bikers. Darn near razed to the ground. I > would have loved to see that. Most people I know think blue jean liberty is > a myth. > > I have an Iranian brother in law who came here as a kid after the Shah was > deposed. Amazing engineer, graduated from Cornell, great husband and > father. I told him the story, and he confirmed those kids at Millington > were the children of rich or influential people who were given the > privilege of coming to the US to learn how to maintain the F-14A's we sold > them. I would be willing to wager some of them are now running the shops > somehow keeping them airworthy with the help of the Russians and other > friendly countries. > > Ironically, my first defense contractor job was with Hughes Aircraft CO's > radar systems group, working on the 2nd generation radar upgrade for the > F-14. Two years out of boot with no degree and I was hired as a Member of > the Engineering Staff. > > One of my colleagues at Raytheon turns out to have also worked on that > program at the same time. He stayed there, I bounced all over the planet. > > The world is tiny. Smaller than most people imagine. ? > > 73, > Juan > K1CPR > > On Mon, Dec 30, 2024, 20:12 Richard Heckbert > wrote: > >> Juan, >> >> >> >> I also spent time learning soldering in lovely Millington. I was a >> little before you (Feb 78 ? Dec 78). I can attest to the quality of >> soldering taught there. I ended up working repairing black boxes >> (actually, mostly gray!) in the fleet and we only had 1 tech >> qualified/permitted to solder aircraft equipment in the whole workcenter so >> I got tagged to go to soldering school and become his backup. I ended up >> teaching electronics at a local trade school for a few years after getting >> out of the Navy and for some reason I had the least dropout rate (and trade >> schools are all about fannies in seats) so I taught the intro to >> electronics module most classes (lather, rinse, repeat). One of the skills >> taught in intro was soldering. Best way to learn a skill is to teach it! >> >> >> >> I remember the Iranian students well ? they would do anything to extend >> their stay and most if not all of them had way more money than brains (or >> so they tried to appear). >> >> >> >> NAS Memphis was actually great duty. I had just turned 19 and had a >> motorcycle that I went all over that corner of Tennessee (as well as >> Mississippi and over the bridge to Arkansas) on. >> >> >> >> Andy, >> >> >> >> You mention hams were prohibited from using what is now the AM broadcast >> band. Weren?t hams thrown completely off the air shortly after 1938? I >> thought I read WW II put a complete kibosh on ham radio. Everything prewar >> was different including call letter format. From what I?ve read, ham radio >> really took off post-war with a lot of surplus radio equipment and a lot of >> ex-military trained on radio equipment. I?m amazed they were able to work >> the old equipment as well as they did. >> >> >> >> Rick >> >> W1OLU >> >> >> >> *From: *bars on behalf of Juan Jim?nez < >> k1cpr at bd5.com> >> *Date: *Monday, December 30, 2024 at 6:48?PM >> *To: *w1hh >> *Subject: *[bars] Fwd: Radio Book >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: *Juan Jim?nez* >> Date: Mon, Dec 30, 2024, 16:36 >> Subject: Re: [bars] Radio Book >> To: Andy Wallace >> >> >> >> "Sometimes I feel like I am one of the few club members left who knows >> how to solder." >> >> >> >> You're not. I graduated from the Naval Air Technical Training Center in >> Millington TN in 1979. We were taught how to solder, with lots of practice. >> I finished quickly near the top of my class. Not the Iranian officer >> candidates. Those kids took a minimum of two weeks to get through the >> initial one day Basic Aviation Introduction. One of them crashed an RV on >> a clear sunny day with no traffic. Told the officers the autopilot didn't >> work. There's your sign... ? >> >> >> >> On Mon, Dec 30, 2024, 13:48 Andy Wallace wrote: >> >> Juan, bravo for finding this great book. And cheap, too. >> >> >> >> Folks, you can read the entire PDF at the link below. My favorite >> sections are the receiver and transmitter construction. >> >> >> >> See the 1938 Frank C. Jones Radio Handbook here: >> >> >> >> *ENGINEERING HANDBOOKS MISCELLANEOUS: Radio engineering reference books >> * >> >> *worldradiohistory.com >> * >> >> *Error! Filename not specified.* >> >> >> >> >> Main site: >> >> >> >> *Radio Music Electronics Publications ALL FREE >> * >> >> *worldradiohistory.com * >> >> *Error! Filename not specified.* >> >> >> >> >> (The person behind World Radio History deserves an award for scanning in >> thousands of radio books and magazines. You can spend days exploring here.) >> >> >> >> I?m a BARS member who enjoys using and fixing old gear. What Juan has >> discovered is the appeal of what came before. Before FT8. Before FM and >> repeaters. Even before single sideband. >> >> >> >> Sometimes I feel like I am one of the few club members left who knows how >> to solder. >> >> >> >> Does 468/f(MHz) mean anything to you? Regardless of when you got your >> license, it should! And it?s in the 1938 Jones handbook. It?s the length of >> a half wave dipole. So you should know if you?re going out to operate Parks >> on the Air you might need supports 66 feet apart to operate 40m?.so maybe >> 33? on 20m might be wiser. >> >> >> >> In 1938 it had been about a decade since hams were thrown off what?s now >> the AM broadcast band to operate ?200 meters and down? - HF. People didn?t >> realize they gave us the bands which would allow easy worldwide >> communication by skywave and the ionosphere. >> >> >> >> Things were still being discovered and invented in radio in 1938. Look at >> that Handbook and you?ll see construction articles where a handful of parts >> got you on the air. Simple receivers. Simple transmitters. It?s like making >> an iPhone in your basement in 2005. High tech. >> >> >> >> We learn by what came before. That?s important. Even in a day when Venmo >> buys you a carton full of electronics to do FT8. >> >> >> >> Andy >> >> KA1GTT >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Dec 29, 2024, at 4:03?PM, Juan Jim?nez wrote: >> >> >> >> ? >> >> Picked up a copy of The Radio Handbook, 1938 edition, for a couple of >> bucks several weeks ago. I started reading it today and realized it beats >> the ARRL handbooks by a long mile. Easy to read, concepts well-explained. >> $1.50 in 1938 would be $31.95 today. >> >> >> >> *Error! Filename not specified.* >> >> >> >> 73, >> >> K1CPR >> >> Juan >> >> _______________________________________________ >> bars mailing list >> bars at w1hh.org >> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org >> >> -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From apizer at comcast.net Tue Dec 31 00:22:56 2024 From: apizer at comcast.net (apizer at comcast.net) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2024 01:22:56 -0500 Subject: [bars] Fwd: Radio Book In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <026301db5b4c$70c1c1f0$524545d0$@comcast.net> Hey, Juan - - which Raytheon(s) did you work at? I was there from ?87 to ?99. Started in Bedford, then Tewksbury and Lowell, and visited Andover once or twice. I know I could have sent this message privately but I put it to the BARS list just in case someone else who worked there wants to chime in . . . Art NF1A From: bars On Behalf Of Juan Jim?nez Sent: Tuesday, December 31, 2024 12:42 AM To: Richard Heckbert Cc: w1hh Subject: Re: [bars] Fwd: Radio Book " Two years out of boot with no degree and I was hired as a Member of the Engineering Staff." Correction, two years out of the end of my tour in 1982. I was hired in 1984, at the end of Reagan's term. 73, K1CPR Juan On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:15?PM Juan Jim?nez > wrote: Small world. I arrived at Millington just after New Year's 1979. Probably missed you as you were packing up. I finished Marine boot in December 78, went home to Puerto Rico for a couple of weeks, totally confused at all the women now hitting on me whom I thought just three months earlier would not have cared if I existed. That was weird, but fun. ? Remember the bar.... err... dive just to the road from the base entrance run by that tall, blonde, leggy woman who looked like she'd been around the planet a few times, let alone the block? I was told that a few weeks after I left the joint was subjected to the "blue jean liberty" treatment after some sailors got beat up by some bikers. Darn near razed to the ground. I would have loved to see that. Most people I know think blue jean liberty is a myth. I have an Iranian brother in law who came here as a kid after the Shah was deposed. Amazing engineer, graduated from Cornell, great husband and father. I told him the story, and he confirmed those kids at Millington were the children of rich or influential people who were given the privilege of coming to the US to learn how to maintain the F-14A's we sold them. I would be willing to wager some of them are now running the shops somehow keeping them airworthy with the help of the Russians and other friendly countries. Ironically, my first defense contractor job was with Hughes Aircraft CO's radar systems group, working on the 2nd generation radar upgrade for the F-14. Two years out of boot with no degree and I was hired as a Member of the Engineering Staff. One of my colleagues at Raytheon turns out to have also worked on that program at the same time. He stayed there, I bounced all over the planet. The world is tiny. Smaller than most people imagine. ? 73, Juan K1CPR On Mon, Dec 30, 2024, 20:12 Richard Heckbert > wrote: Juan, I also spent time learning soldering in lovely Millington. I was a little before you (Feb 78 ? Dec 78). I can attest to the quality of soldering taught there. I ended up working repairing black boxes (actually, mostly gray!) in the fleet and we only had 1 tech qualified/permitted to solder aircraft equipment in the whole workcenter so I got tagged to go to soldering school and become his backup. I ended up teaching electronics at a local trade school for a few years after getting out of the Navy and for some reason I had the least dropout rate (and trade schools are all about fannies in seats) so I taught the intro to electronics module most classes (lather, rinse, repeat). One of the skills taught in intro was soldering. Best way to learn a skill is to teach it! I remember the Iranian students well ? they would do anything to extend their stay and most if not all of them had way more money than brains (or so they tried to appear). NAS Memphis was actually great duty. I had just turned 19 and had a motorcycle that I went all over that corner of Tennessee (as well as Mississippi and over the bridge to Arkansas) on. Andy, You mention hams were prohibited from using what is now the AM broadcast band. Weren?t hams thrown completely off the air shortly after 1938? I thought I read WW II put a complete kibosh on ham radio. Everything prewar was different including call letter format. From what I?ve read, ham radio really took off post-war with a lot of surplus radio equipment and a lot of ex-military trained on radio equipment. I?m amazed they were able to work the old equipment as well as they did. Rick W1OLU From: bars > on behalf of Juan Jim?nez > Date: Monday, December 30, 2024 at 6:48?PM To: w1hh > Subject: [bars] Fwd: Radio Book ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Juan Jim?nez > Date: Mon, Dec 30, 2024, 16:36 Subject: Re: [bars] Radio Book To: Andy Wallace > "Sometimes I feel like I am one of the few club members left who knows how to solder." You're not. I graduated from the Naval Air Technical Training Center in Millington TN in 1979. We were taught how to solder, with lots of practice. I finished quickly near the top of my class. Not the Iranian officer candidates. Those kids took a minimum of two weeks to get through the initial one day Basic Aviation Introduction. One of them crashed an RV on a clear sunny day with no traffic. Told the officers the autopilot didn't work. There's your sign... ? On Mon, Dec 30, 2024, 13:48 Andy Wallace > wrote: Juan, bravo for finding this great book. And cheap, too. Folks, you can read the entire PDF at the link below. My favorite sections are the receiver and transmitter construction. See the 1938 Frank C. Jones Radio Handbook here: ENGINEERING HANDBOOKS MISCELLANEOUS: Radio engineering reference books worldradiohistory.com Error! Filename not specified. Main site: Radio Music Electronics Publications ALL FREE worldradiohistory.com Error! Filename not specified. (The person behind World Radio History deserves an award for scanning in thousands of radio books and magazines. You can spend days exploring here.) I?m a BARS member who enjoys using and fixing old gear. What Juan has discovered is the appeal of what came before. Before FT8. Before FM and repeaters. Even before single sideband. Sometimes I feel like I am one of the few club members left who knows how to solder. Does 468/f(MHz) mean anything to you? Regardless of when you got your license, it should! And it?s in the 1938 Jones handbook. It?s the length of a half wave dipole. So you should know if you?re going out to operate Parks on the Air you might need supports 66 feet apart to operate 40m?.so maybe 33? on 20m might be wiser. In 1938 it had been about a decade since hams were thrown off what?s now the AM broadcast band to operate ?200 meters and down? - HF. People didn?t realize they gave us the bands which would allow easy worldwide communication by skywave and the ionosphere. Things were still being discovered and invented in radio in 1938. Look at that Handbook and you?ll see construction articles where a handful of parts got you on the air. Simple receivers. Simple transmitters. It?s like making an iPhone in your basement in 2005. High tech. We learn by what came before. That?s important. Even in a day when Venmo buys you a carton full of electronics to do FT8. Andy KA1GTT Dec 29, 2024, at 4:03?PM, Juan Jim?nez > wrote: ? Picked up a copy of The Radio Handbook, 1938 edition, for a couple of bucks several weeks ago. I started reading it today and realized it beats the ARRL handbooks by a long mile. Easy to read, concepts well-explained. $1.50 in 1938 would be $31.95 today. Error! Filename not specified. 73, K1CPR Juan _______________________________________________ bars mailing list bars at w1hh.org http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ericlee.johnson at gmail.com Tue Dec 31 14:33:24 2024 From: ericlee.johnson at gmail.com (Eric L. Johnson) Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2024 15:33:24 -0500 Subject: [bars] New Ham/new Radio recommendations In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I really enjoyed my first rig: iCom 7100...... Worth a look. Eric Johnson KC1OAV On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 3:55?PM Jim Idelson wrote: > Following up on Richie's comments, you should go down a path of exploring > areas that interest you. Have you been able to get some first-hand exposure > to any of the many different potential activities you could try? > > As I'm writing this note, I literally just remembered that I have a radio > for sale that could be an option for you. It's a Yaesu FT-847. It is truly > the shack-in-a-box that you are thinking about. It can be > computer-controlled and it can operate from 160m to 70cm (except 60m). You > will need a separate computer interface to do the digital modes, but that's > not hard. It also works as a satellite ground station, if that is of any > interest. If you have a budget of $1000-1200, the price of this radio would > leave you some hundreds to spend on other accessories that you will > definitely need - power supply, antenna(s) and feedline(s). > > Contact me directly if interested, Rick. > > 73 Jim K1IR > > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 2:12?AM Richard T wrote: > >> Well Rick, congrats and welcome to the Fraternal order of Ham Radio. You >> pretty much have most of the research needed. But answer a few questions. >> 1. What bands interest you? If just 2 Meter ragchewing, a Vhf/Uhf rig may >> be all you need. Yaesu has many rigs that will serve you well. They have >> basic to full boat rigs available. If you like HF band work, Yarsu again >> has a wide choice of rigs, starting with their FT 710 AESS SDR rig or the >> FTdx10. The Icom 7300 is the Volkswagen of radios, good but now a bit >> dated. The Yaesu rigs offer more bang for ham buck IMHO. As for antennas, >> Diamond or Comet are good choices for Vhf/Uhf. For HF look at Palomar >> Engineers for their wire units, especially their Off Center Fed or their >> Non Resonant End Fed models. If still unsure, trek up to HRO in Salem NH >> and play with the display models there and ask a salesman your questions. >> You may just be happy with a 2 Meter handheld. I own two (!) Baofeng UV 5RM >> HTs bought on Amazon. The complete pair cost $70. This is two radios, >> batteries, chargers and three different antennas plus earphone/mic and >> programming cable. Hope this gives you some ideas and welcome to BARS. >> RichieT >> W1RJT >> >> On Fri, Dec 27, 2024, 12:36?AM Richard Heckbert < >> richard.heckbert at gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Happy Holidays everyone, >>> >>> >>> >>> I recently got into ham radio after retiring. I purchased a QRZ-1 >>> Explorer handheld soon after getting my license and have been using it to >>> check in to the Wednesday night net. I replaced the stubby antenna with a >>> hamstuff one and seem to be getting out much better but occasionally I >>> still hear ?I think I heard you say . . . ? My thought has always been to >>> get a decent base unit eventually although to be honest I?m not sure if ham >>> radio is for me (but I want to try!) My wife asked for my Christmas list >>> this year and I mentioned several radios that had been recommended on the >>> hamradio and amateur radio subreddits on Reddit. Unfortunately, if you >>> follow those subreddits, you?ll know that for each recommendation asked >>> you?ll get a hundred different suggestions that soon devolve into a Yaesu >>> vs ICOM vs Kenwood battle. My wife was even more overwhelmed than I so >>> rather than purchase one she put aside a budget of $1,000-$1,200 and asked >>> me to purchase it myself. >>> >>> >>> >>> So, I?m not sure what I really want to do specifically, at this point >>> I?d just love to be heard a little better Wednesday nights! I think I?d >>> like a rig that gives me the most options ? a shack in a box as they say. >>> I would also need an antenna and associated wiring although I?m not nearly >>> as spry as I once was and I?m not putting anything in a tree any more. >>> Maybe an attic antenna? I see ARRL has a new Indoor Antenna book out, has >>> anyone looked at it yet? >>> >>> >>> >>> I?d ask on Reddit but I don?t want 100+ different opinions from 100+ >>> fellow Redditors so I figured you all (the local Elmers!) would be a much >>> better place to ask. I did get my Amateur Extra ticket recently so no band >>> restrictions. The rigs I?ve heard mentioned are (in no particular order) >>> >>> >>> >>> Yaesu FTdx-10 (might be too much of a stretch) >>> >>> Yaesu FT-991A (did see a nice used one on one of the forums for $875 >>> shipped) >>> >>> ICOM-7300 >>> >>> >>> >>> But I am definitely open to others. I?ve looked at used rigs but >>> besides less features, there seem to be no bargains in that area! I?ve >>> thought about asking to borrow the club loaner rig but I don?t want to set >>> something up only to have to take it down in a bit ? it wouldn?t be fair to >>> other new users/members to keep it too long (in my opinion). >>> >>> >>> >>> In addition to choosing a rig, I need to choose where to order if from. >>> I primarily research and purchase online. A few places I?ve heard about >>> are Gigaparts, DXEngineering, HRO in Salem, NH, any other good places to >>> buy? I did look on eBay but right now, it seems lower power Japanese >>> versions are the vast majority of offers. I also worry about warranty >>> purchasing on eBay. >>> >>> >>> >>> Just to throw this out, I have a background in electronics courtesy of >>> the USN and I taught electronics at a trade school for a number of years as >>> well as retired from a career in IT so I have this crazy idea that pops up >>> occasionally to build my own gear? Is this even done any more? I feel I >>> might be biting off way more than I can chew with that approach. >>> >>> >>> >>> This might be a dumb question but are the included microphones decent >>> enough? In my way younger CB radio days the mic was the first thing you >>> upgraded >>> >>> >>> >>> So, thanks for taking the time to read through this and many, many >>> thanks to those who take the time to answer (and many thanks to everyone in >>> BARS who also made me feel welcome) >>> >>> >>> >>> 73s, >>> >>> >>> >>> Rick Heckbert >>> >>> W1OLU >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> bars mailing list >>> bars at w1hh.org >>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> bars mailing list >> bars at w1hh.org >> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org >> > _______________________________________________ > bars mailing list > bars at w1hh.org > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org > -- Eric L. 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