From jontur at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 16:41:05 2025
From: jontur at gmail.com (Jon Turner)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2025 17:41:05 -0400
Subject: [bars] Equipment for sale
In-Reply-To: 
 <CAE-UAFVzhMKz7MN_2E_j8=iTZ2Cg-iankOKsfMfnKzo8jXcM-g@mail.gmail.com>
References: 
 <CAE-UAFVWvbz0OydXjhjhfLiUsGp=SvhvX=d-bh2xxFVfABx72Q@mail.gmail.com>
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Thank you to all who purchased equipment today. It was much appreciated .

Please find attached an updated list.

Also if anyone knows someone interested in antenna, I have 3 on my roof. I
am looking for someone who is able to help take them down or knows someone
who can it also would be much appreciated

On Tue, Sep 30, 2025, 11:10 AM Jon Turner <jontur at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry for not including this in the original email, but here is a
> spreadsheet of everything for sale
>
> On Tue, Sep 30, 2025, 10:56 AM Jon Turner <jontur at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Good morning,
>>
>> My name is Stephanie Turner.   Jon Turner is my husband.   For those who
>> do not know, Jon passed away in March.   I am selling  all his ham radio
>> equipment.   If anyone  is interested i will be available to show you what
>> I have on October 1st from 10-3 and October  4th from 10-3.
>>
>> My address is 11 Ellington Rd  Tewksbury
>> Phone is 978-729_5109
>>
>> Please reply to Tpp358nh at gmail.com
>>
>>
>> Stephanie Turner
>>
>
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From richard.heckbert at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 18:03:51 2025
From: richard.heckbert at gmail.com (Richard Heckbert)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2025 23:03:51 +0000
Subject: [bars] October meeting Zoom link?
References: 
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Hi all,

Did I miss the link for tonight’s meeting?  I can’t seem to find it

Rick
W1OLU
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From richard.heckbert at gmail.com  Wed Oct  1 18:12:06 2025
From: richard.heckbert at gmail.com (Richard Heckbert)
Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2025 23:12:06 +0000
Subject: [bars] October meeting Zoom link?
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Found it in the mailing list archives – I definitely did not seem to get it – checked inbox, spam and deleted items – weird

Rick

From: Richard Heckbert <richard.heckbert at gmail.com>
Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2025 at 7:03 PM
To: "bars at w1hh.org" <bars at w1hh.org>
Subject: October meeting Zoom link?

Hi all,

Did I miss the link for tonight’s meeting?  I can’t seem to find it

Rick
W1OLU
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From w1lusba at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 00:02:32 2025
From: w1lusba at gmail.com (Bruce Anderson)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2025 01:02:32 -0400
Subject: [bars] BARS October 1 meeting, Link to the NANO VA presentation
Message-ID: 
 <CAL0GuJ2bxZpupPHP9yt9z1hERAOpTEJP_M-aFAR_cXuHYpSYhg@mail.gmail.com>

Link to the NANO VA presentation
BARS October 1 meeting

https://us02web.zoom.us/rec/share/OVO_JsF8rF3boKovC9gfZAaaajwiKq3vxcQ7CuPv8C1U2Xja4BBJ2N6f9cwJJDT6.A6aMZfxXZE_bD0J6?startTime=1759360944000
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From soldersmoke01 at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 07:28:17 2025
From: soldersmoke01 at gmail.com (Andy Wallace)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2025 08:28:17 -0400
Subject: [bars] my two IC-7300 articles
References: <3047f3f9e51d46b784845e95097f7b6a@analog.com>
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From Brendan_Welch at uml.edu  Thu Oct  2 17:40:59 2025
From: Brendan_Welch at uml.edu (Welch, Brendan)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2025 22:40:59 +0000
Subject: [bars] from W1LPG
Message-ID: 
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In the recent monthly talk, the presenter mentioned software named
SAVER (or similar) for using with the Nano VNA.

And a few months ago, Andy kb1oiq presented his fantastic collection
of just about all possible working ham software.  If that collection has
SAVER in it,  that there is an additional reason to put the two together,
at minimum price and effort.  If not, Andy might be persuaded to add
it in.

(My grammar school teachers said we never should say "that there")


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From christopher.wood at firelinkllc.com  Thu Oct  2 18:07:10 2025
From: christopher.wood at firelinkllc.com (Christopher Wood)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2025 23:07:10 +0000
Subject: [bars] from W1LPG
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I think this is the software to which he referred: NanoVNASaver

https://nanovna.com/?page_id=90
________________________________
From: bars <bars-bounces at w1hh.org> on behalf of Welch, Brendan via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:40 PM
To: Tim - K1DC via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
Subject: [bars] from W1LPG

In the recent monthly talk, the presenter mentioned software named
SAVER (or similar) for using with the Nano VNA.

And a few months ago, Andy kb1oiq presented his fantastic collection
of just about all possible working ham software.  If that collection has
SAVER in it,  that there is an additional reason to put the two together,
at minimum price and effort.  If not, Andy might be persuaded to add
it in.

(My grammar school teachers said we never should say "that there")


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From dmarcucci at gmail.com  Thu Oct  2 18:19:19 2025
From: dmarcucci at gmail.com (David Marcucci)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2025 19:19:19 -0400
Subject: [bars] from W1LPG
In-Reply-To: 
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References: 
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I think that’s also Windows only. However, there are other programs that
will work with the NanoVNA. I had two different ones running but both were
on windows. Maybe there is a Linux app out there somewhere but I am just in
the process now of switching to Linux for my ham pc.

Dave KC1TLF

On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 7:07 PM Christopher Wood via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
wrote:

> I think this is the software to which he referred: NanoVNASaver
>
> https://nanovna.com/?page_id=90
> ------------------------------
> *From:* bars <bars-bounces at w1hh.org> on behalf of Welch, Brendan via bars
> <bars at w1hh.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:40 PM
> *To:* Tim - K1DC via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
> *Subject:* [bars] from W1LPG
>
> In the recent monthly talk, the presenter mentioned software named
> SAVER (or similar) for using with the Nano VNA.
>
> And a few months ago, Andy kb1oiq presented his fantastic collection
> of just about all possible working ham software.  If that collection has
> SAVER in it,  that there is an additional reason to put the two together,
> at minimum price and effort.  If not, Andy might be persuaded to add
> it in.
>
> (My grammar school teachers said we never should say "that there")
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> bars mailing list
> bars at w1hh.org
> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>
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From verhulst at comcast.net  Thu Oct  2 18:42:39 2025
From: verhulst at comcast.net (Verhulst)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2025 19:42:39 -0400
Subject: [bars] Looking for software to identify digital modes
Message-ID: <58de1091-e91d-42ac-9025-e452e8076089@comcast.net>

Barsians,

There are plenty of programs that will let you hear different different 
digital modes offline. What I have not been able to find a program that 
connects to the radio and identify the currently tuned signal mode. I'm 
not particularly interested in decoding the signal. Anyone know of such 
a program?

Thanx  73s Tony W1DYS

From jim at k1ir.com  Thu Oct  2 19:44:02 2025
From: jim at k1ir.com (Jim Idelson)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2025 20:44:02 -0400
Subject: [bars] from W1LPG
In-Reply-To: 
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References: 
 <DM6PR02MB3929CCF9C1C55A62620DC2468EE7A@DM6PR02MB3929.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
 <SA3PR05MB9740CD554CC6B59D7C81F97784E7A@SA3PR05MB9740.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
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Message-ID: 
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I have an app that runs on my android phone. I've used it out in the woods
and at 100 feet on the tower!

--
73 Jim K1IR

On Thu, Oct 2, 2025, 19:19 David Marcucci via bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:

> I think that’s also Windows only. However, there are other programs that
> will work with the NanoVNA. I had two different ones running but both were
> on windows. Maybe there is a Linux app out there somewhere but I am just in
> the process now of switching to Linux for my ham pc.
>
> Dave KC1TLF
>
> On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 7:07 PM Christopher Wood via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
> wrote:
>
>> I think this is the software to which he referred: NanoVNASaver
>>
>> https://nanovna.com/?page_id=90
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* bars <bars-bounces at w1hh.org> on behalf of Welch, Brendan via
>> bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:40 PM
>> *To:* Tim - K1DC via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>> *Subject:* [bars] from W1LPG
>>
>> In the recent monthly talk, the presenter mentioned software named
>> SAVER (or similar) for using with the Nano VNA.
>>
>> And a few months ago, Andy kb1oiq presented his fantastic collection
>> of just about all possible working ham software.  If that collection has
>> SAVER in it,  that there is an additional reason to put the two together,
>> at minimum price and effort.  If not, Andy might be persuaded to add
>> it in.
>>
>> (My grammar school teachers said we never should say "that there")
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> bars mailing list
>> bars at w1hh.org
>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>
> _______________________________________________
> bars mailing list
> bars at w1hh.org
> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
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From jbammi at icloud.com  Thu Oct  2 20:18:02 2025
From: jbammi at icloud.com (JWAHAR BAMMI)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2025 18:18:02 -0700
Subject: [bars] Looking for software to identify digital modes
In-Reply-To: <58de1091-e91d-42ac-9025-e452e8076089@comcast.net>
References: <58de1091-e91d-42ac-9025-e452e8076089@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <4DCCD335-2286-496A-B613-2B19ABA902C4@icloud.com>

https://www.sigidwiki.com/wiki/Signal_Identification_Guide

Is a good place to start

FLDIGI will identify most signal with an RSID

73 de ws1m
Bammi

> On Oct 2, 2025, at 4:43 PM, Verhulst via bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:
> 
> Barsians,
> 
> There are plenty of programs that will let you hear different different digital modes offline. What I have not been able to find a program that connects to the radio and identify the currently tuned signal mode. I'm not particularly interested in decoding the signal. Anyone know of such a program?
> 
> Thanx  73s Tony W1DYS
> 
> _______________________________________________
> bars mailing list
> bars at w1hh.org
> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
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From jbammi at icloud.com  Thu Oct  2 20:20:35 2025
From: jbammi at icloud.com (JWAHAR BAMMI)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2025 18:20:35 -0700
Subject: [bars] from W1LPG
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From jbammi at icloud.com  Thu Oct  2 20:22:59 2025
From: jbammi at icloud.com (JWAHAR BAMMI)
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 2025 18:22:59 -0700
Subject: [bars] from W1LPG
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From leandra at leandramac.com  Thu Oct  2 21:01:44 2025
From: leandra at leandramac.com (Leandra MacLennan)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2025 02:01:44 +0000
Subject: [bars] Looking for software to identify digital modes
In-Reply-To: <4DCCD335-2286-496A-B613-2B19ABA902C4@icloud.com>
References: <58de1091-e91d-42ac-9025-e452e8076089@comcast.net>
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The "secret" technique to identify digital signals is to do lots of listening.

 I have done a lot of listening and can identify by ear most of the common digital signals.

FT8/FT4/JS8Call, these are the easiest to identify by their positions in the band. WSJT-X shows the frequencies where most of this operation takes place. These signals are synchronized to the clock. FT8 signals start at the top of the minute and at 30 seconds into the minute. FT4 signals are only 15 seconds long and start at second 0, 15, 30 and 45. JS8Call uses FT8, but are different frequencies that are not shown in WSJT-X. Every once in a while, a DX station will use an oddball frequency to keep their traffic off the FT8 watering holes. And they often use a special WSJT-X mode, so read up on them before trying to make a contact.

Start by listening to the ARRL digital bulletins. These are sent every weekday in three different modes: RTTY, PSK32 and MFSK16. Use FLDIGI to decode these signals. These signals sound very different from each other. After a couple sessions you will be able to identify which mode you are hearing.
https://www.arrl.org/digital-transmissions


In the 80M and 40M CW bands you will hear a lot of VARA. This is a robust digital mode with handshaking. You can identify these signals by the short and repetitive signal bursts.
VARA is heavily used for Winlink traffic, so you will see lots of VARA in the evenings on 80 and 40.
VarAC also uses VARA for data transport. The two watering holes for VarAC are 7.105 and 14.105.

And Packet is very distinctive - listen for APRS on 144.39 MHz

And FYI, all digital transmissions on all bands, with only one exception (packet on 40M), are all USB.

   -Leandra

________________________________
From: bars <bars-bounces at w1hh.org> on behalf of JWAHAR BAMMI via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 9:18 PM
To: Verhulst <verhulst at comcast.net>
Cc: CLUB BROADCAST BARS <bars at w1hh.org>
Subject: Re: [bars] Looking for software to identify digital modes

https://www.sigidwiki.com/wiki/Signal_Identification_Guide

Is a good place to start

FLDIGI will identify most signal with an RSID

73 de ws1m
Bammi

On Oct 2, 2025, at 4:43 PM, Verhulst via bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:

Barsians,

There are plenty of programs that will let you hear different different digital modes offline. What I have not been able to find a program that connects to the radio and identify the currently tuned signal mode. I'm not particularly interested in decoding the signal. Anyone know of such a program?

Thanx  73s Tony W1DYS

_______________________________________________
bars mailing list
bars at w1hh.org
http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
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From leandra at leandramac.com  Thu Oct  2 23:14:20 2025
From: leandra at leandramac.com (Leandra MacLennan)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2025 04:14:20 +0000
Subject: [bars] Looking for software to identify digital modes
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References: <58de1091-e91d-42ac-9025-e452e8076089@comcast.net>
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A correction to my last email

W1AW digital transmissions modes are RTTY, PSK31, and MFSK16

--------------------------

Let's not forget about SSTV (Slow Scan TV), which is not actually a digital mode. SSTV is used to send images. SSTV is a FAX mode where the image is encoded into audio tones. Most of the SSTV activity is on 14.230 MHz. Two or 3 times a year, the International Space Station (ISS) transmits SSTV images on 145.800 MHz.
https://amsat-uk.org/beginners/iss-sstv/

Use MMSSTV to decode SSTV.
https://hamsoft.ca/pages/mmsstv.php

(If you are working 20M SSB, please stay off 14.230 MHz to keep this frequency clear for SSTV operation )


You can hear MFSK32 and MFSK64 every week on shortwave station WRMI Florida, 15.770 MHz, from 9:30 A.M. to 10:00 A.M. on Wednesdays. The weekly "Shortwave Radiogram" program is transmitted in these two digital modes.
https://swradiogram.net/


Another digital mode to look for is FreeDV. If you are listening with an SSB receiver all you will hear is noise. This is a collection of modes used to encode and decode digital voice on HF. These are all phone modes, so FreeDV is used only on the phone bands. The new RADE mode is amazing. It continues to decode down to signal levels that would be difficult to copy SSB. In my opinion, the audio quality of RADE is much better than any of the commercial digital voice modes (DMR, DStar, Fusion) used on VHF.
https://freedv.org/

Look on the Free DV reporter web page for FreeDV activity
https://qso.freedv.org/
(I would be happy to make a QSO with anyone who would like to try FreeDV)


In my previous email and this email I have mentioned the most popular modes. There are many more digital modes!
THOR22 is commonly used for traffic nets.
Olivia 8/250 is used for ragchews because it is very robust. During a QSO using Olivia 8/250 I saw the other station's signal fade and disappear from the waterfall on my IC-7300, yet the text continued to decode without a hiccup on my computer.
https://www.oliviadigitalmode.org/

Listen and listen so you can identify all of these modes by ear. If you hear an unfamiliar signal, see if FLDIGI will decode it.


   -Leandra AF1R
________________________________
From: bars <bars-bounces at w1hh.org> on behalf of Leandra MacLennan via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 10:01 PM
To: Verhulst <verhulst at comcast.net>; JWAHAR BAMMI <jbammi at icloud.com>
Cc: CLUB BROADCAST BARS <bars at w1hh.org>
Subject: Re: [bars] Looking for software to identify digital modes

The "secret" technique to identify digital signals is to do lots of listening.

 I have done a lot of listening and can identify by ear most of the common digital signals.

FT8/FT4/JS8Call, these are the easiest to identify by their positions in the band. WSJT-X shows the frequencies where most of this operation takes place. These signals are synchronized to the clock. FT8 signals start at the top of the minute and at 30 seconds into the minute. FT4 signals are only 15 seconds long and start at second 0, 15, 30 and 45. JS8Call uses FT8, but are different frequencies that are not shown in WSJT-X. Every once in a while, a DX station will use an oddball frequency to keep their traffic off the FT8 watering holes. And they often use a special WSJT-X mode, so read up on them before trying to make a contact.

Start by listening to the ARRL digital bulletins. These are sent every weekday in three different modes: RTTY, PSK32 and MFSK16. Use FLDIGI to decode these signals. These signals sound very different from each other. After a couple sessions you will be able to identify which mode you are hearing.
https://www.arrl.org/digital-transmissions


In the 80M and 40M CW bands you will hear a lot of VARA. This is a robust digital mode with handshaking. You can identify these signals by the short and repetitive signal bursts.
VARA is heavily used for Winlink traffic, so you will see lots of VARA in the evenings on 80 and 40.
VarAC also uses VARA for data transport. The two watering holes for VarAC are 7.105 and 14.105.

And Packet is very distinctive - listen for APRS on 144.39 MHz

And FYI, all digital transmissions on all bands, with only one exception (packet on 40M), are all USB.

   -Leandra

________________________________
From: bars <bars-bounces at w1hh.org> on behalf of JWAHAR BAMMI via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 9:18 PM
To: Verhulst <verhulst at comcast.net>
Cc: CLUB BROADCAST BARS <bars at w1hh.org>
Subject: Re: [bars] Looking for software to identify digital modes

https://www.sigidwiki.com/wiki/Signal_Identification_Guide

Is a good place to start

FLDIGI will identify most signal with an RSID

73 de ws1m
Bammi

On Oct 2, 2025, at 4:43 PM, Verhulst via bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:

Barsians,

There are plenty of programs that will let you hear different different digital modes offline. What I have not been able to find a program that connects to the radio and identify the currently tuned signal mode. I'm not particularly interested in decoding the signal. Anyone know of such a program?

Thanx  73s Tony W1DYS

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From k1cpr at bd5.com  Fri Oct  3 13:36:18 2025
From: k1cpr at bd5.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Juan_Jim=C3=A9nez?=)
Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2025 14:36:18 -0400
Subject: [bars] Looking for software to identify digital modes
In-Reply-To: 
 <BL0PR18MB2194496133E3A2F1D9E29289DAE4A@BL0PR18MB2194.namprd18.prod.outlook.com>
References: <58de1091-e91d-42ac-9025-e452e8076089@comcast.net>
 <4DCCD335-2286-496A-B613-2B19ABA902C4@icloud.com>
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Message-ID: 
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I can tell what type of digital is being worked by looking at the waterfall
display. After a while you can identify it within seconds.

73,
K1CPR
Juan


On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 10:01 PM Leandra MacLennan via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
wrote:

> The "secret" technique to identify digital signals is to do lots of
> listening.
>
>  I have done a lot of listening and can identify by ear most of the common
> digital signals.
>
> FT8/FT4/JS8Call, these are the easiest to identify by their positions in
> the band. WSJT-X shows the frequencies where most of this operation takes
> place. These signals are synchronized to the clock. FT8 signals start at
> the top of the minute and at 30 seconds into the minute. FT4 signals are
> only 15 seconds long and start at second 0, 15, 30 and 45. JS8Call uses
> FT8, but are different frequencies that are not shown in WSJT-X. Every once
> in a while, a DX station will use an oddball frequency to keep their
> traffic off the FT8 watering holes. And they often use a special WSJT-X
> mode, so read up on them before trying to make a contact.
>
> Start by listening to the ARRL digital bulletins. These are sent every
> weekday in three different modes: RTTY, PSK32 and MFSK16. Use FLDIGI to
> decode these signals. These signals sound very different from each other.
> After a couple sessions you will be able to identify which mode you are
> hearing.
> https://www.arrl.org/digital-transmissions
>
>
> In the 80M and 40M CW bands you will hear a lot of VARA. This is a robust
> digital mode with handshaking. You can identify these signals by the short
> and repetitive signal bursts.
> VARA is heavily used for Winlink traffic, so you will see lots of VARA in
> the evenings on 80 and 40.
> VarAC also uses VARA for data transport. The two watering holes for VarAC
> are 7.105 and 14.105.
>
> And Packet is very distinctive - listen for APRS on 144.39 MHz
>
> And FYI, all digital transmissions on all bands, with only one exception
> (packet on 40M), are all USB.
>
>    -Leandra
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* bars <bars-bounces at w1hh.org> on behalf of JWAHAR BAMMI via bars <
> bars at w1hh.org>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 2, 2025 9:18 PM
> *To:* Verhulst <verhulst at comcast.net>
> *Cc:* CLUB BROADCAST BARS <bars at w1hh.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [bars] Looking for software to identify digital modes
>
> https://www.sigidwiki.com/wiki/Signal_Identification_Guide
>
> Is a good place to start
>
> FLDIGI will identify most signal with an RSID
>
> 73 de ws1m
> Bammi
>
> On Oct 2, 2025, at 4:43 PM, Verhulst via bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:
>
> Barsians,
>
> There are plenty of programs that will let you hear different different
> digital modes offline. What I have not been able to find a program that
> connects to the radio and identify the currently tuned signal mode. I'm not
> particularly interested in decoding the signal. Anyone know of such a
> program?
>
> Thanx  73s Tony W1DYS
>
> _______________________________________________
> bars mailing list
> bars at w1hh.org
> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> bars mailing list
> bars at w1hh.org
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From dolans.family at gmail.com  Sat Oct  4 11:14:09 2025
From: dolans.family at gmail.com (Joanne Dolan)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2025 12:14:09 -0400
Subject: [bars] Oak tree vs dipole
Message-ID: <0704B97F-663D-4AEA-9B05-014F8D58160D@gmail.com>

Here’s the setup I used for the dipole:
Pic #1) Using endless loops, this end is attached to the chimney with a counter weight.
Pic #2) the dipole then goes up over the roof, usually higher than what’s pictured.
Pic #3) balun still attached to antenna and coax in tree at 2nd point of support.
Pic #4) last end of dipole, still attached to endless loops, pictured in this tree.
             Note: all the green pictured from the ground up is the oak broken branch.
                        Pictures to follow.




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Sent from my iPad

From dolans.family at gmail.com  Sat Oct  4 11:30:14 2025
From: dolans.family at gmail.com (Joanne Dolan)
Date: Sat, 4 Oct 2025 12:30:14 -0400
Subject: [bars] Oak tree vs dipole
Message-ID: <4B57E4AF-3CA9-42D7-8481-49601334C4CB@gmail.com>


Here’s the oak branch that fell neatly between my house and my back fence.
Note: everything that is green is the oak leaves.

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Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 4, 2025, at 12:14 PM, Joanne Dolan <dolans.family at gmail.com> wrote:
> Here’s the setup I used for the dipole:
> Pic #1) Using endless loops, this end is attached to the chimney with a counter weight.
> Pic #2) the dipole then goes up over the roof, usually higher than what’s pictured.
> Pic #3) balun still attached to antenna and coax in tree at 2nd point of support.
> Pic #4) last end of dipole, still attached to endless loops, pictured in this tree.
>             Note: all the green pictured from the ground up is the oak broken branch.
>                        Pictures to follow.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> <image0.jpeg>
> <image1.jpeg>
> <image2.jpeg>
> <image3.jpeg>
> 
> Sent from my iPad

From ka1uln1 at gmail.com  Mon Oct  6 21:31:25 2025
From: ka1uln1 at gmail.com (ham operator)
Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2025 22:31:25 -0400
Subject: [bars] Bars group POTA Parks on the Air
Message-ID: 
 <CADgCPsRvvktmdKFeQeNed1HfhSg7U_g_rapYtpaH=EeHM6hUrA@mail.gmail.com>

hello Bars

time to start group POTAS

for all pota  info www.parksontheair.com

lets make a few plans:
where is the closest parks to the meeting location:
US-4742. - warren manning state forest
US-2435  - great brook farm state park
US-4735. - carisle state forest

is anyone available to do potas on a weekday
is 10 am good on weekday or weekend


the link above will help you understand what you need to bring to the pota
site

i am going to go check out warren manning
and i will schedule a time and day


-- 
    73  Niece
Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235

20m  14.045    SLOW  CW  NET
SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
we use  netlogger.org

when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first

check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
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From kwaj.speedo at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 12:12:17 2025
From: kwaj.speedo at gmail.com (Christopher Lennon)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2025 13:12:17 -0400
Subject: [bars] Bars group POTA Parks on the Air
In-Reply-To: 
 <CADgCPsRvvktmdKFeQeNed1HfhSg7U_g_rapYtpaH=EeHM6hUrA@mail.gmail.com>
References: 
 <CADgCPsRvvktmdKFeQeNed1HfhSg7U_g_rapYtpaH=EeHM6hUrA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 
 <CANEWh+vLEoOCtA1DGsUkMo+BVhp_hp6FJPL8C-PZnaEy-50c+w@mail.gmail.com>

I have been thinking the same.

The Carlisle State Forest has limited parking and a limited area to set
up.  Great Brook and Manning are good options.  I have activated Manning.
I have been saving Great Brook.

I can do Thursday/Friday weekday activations.  10:00 is good.  This week I
have a dentist appt on Friday.

Equipment I can bring:
Xiegu G90 20W (CW and Phone) can do FT8 but not very experienced, never
activated with it.
15 Ah battery
Fox River monopole w 40m coil
(Can do 10-20m plus 40m)
6m Carbon Fiber Mast can be used with
20m EFHW
20/40 m EFHW
20m dipole
20m 1/4 monopole wire
15m 1/4 monopole wire
Rig Expert for tuning
Paddles and straight key.
Coax to connect it all

Can also bring enthusiasm and 18 WPM Morse.

Can also bring 2 single band CW QRP rigs with 6Ah battery

Come on K1VK.  It's time we got in the air together!

Chris
W2BPL


Sent from my phone.

On Mon, Oct 6, 2025, 10:31 PM ham operator via bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:

> hello Bars
>
> time to start group POTAS
>
> for all pota  info www.parksontheair.com
>
> lets make a few plans:
> where is the closest parks to the meeting location:
> US-4742. - warren manning state forest
> US-2435  - great brook farm state park
> US-4735. - carisle state forest
>
> is anyone available to do potas on a weekday
> is 10 am good on weekday or weekend
>
>
> the link above will help you understand what you need to bring to the pota
> site
>
> i am going to go check out warren manning
> and i will schedule a time and day
>
>
> --
>     73  Niece
> Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
>
> 20m  14.045    SLOW  CW  NET
> SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
> we use  netlogger.org
>
> when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
>
> check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
>
> _______________________________________________
> bars mailing list
> bars at w1hh.org
> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
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From k1dc.radio at gmail.com  Tue Oct  7 12:41:30 2025
From: k1dc.radio at gmail.com (Tim - K1DC)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2025 13:41:30 -0400
Subject: [bars] Oak tree vs dipole
In-Reply-To: <4B57E4AF-3CA9-42D7-8481-49601334C4CB@gmail.com>
References: <4B57E4AF-3CA9-42D7-8481-49601334C4CB@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <6b7f3525-db5a-4799-ad7b-e9971b88b014@gmail.com>

OUCH!  After all the trouble you went to get a dipole in the air!

Hopefully, you won't have to wait till next Field Day to get back on HF!

73,

T.

On 10/4/2025 12:30, Joanne Dolan via bars wrote:
> 
> Here’s the oak branch that fell neatly between my house and my back fence.
> Note: everything that is green is the oak leaves.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Oct 4, 2025, at 12:14 PM, Joanne Dolan<dolans.family at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Here’s the setup I used for the dipole:
>> Pic #1) Using endless loops, this end is attached to the chimney with a counter weight.
>> Pic #2) the dipole then goes up over the roof, usually higher than what’s pictured.
>> Pic #3) balun still attached to antenna and coax in tree at 2nd point of support.
>> Pic #4) last end of dipole, still attached to endless loops, pictured in this tree.
>>              Note: all the green pictured from the ground up is the oak broken branch.
>>                         Pictures to follow.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <image0.jpeg>
>> <image1.jpeg>
>> <image2.jpeg>
>> <image3.jpeg>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> bars mailing list
>> bars at w1hh.org
>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
-- 

Courageously sent from a non-Apple device that /includes/ a headphone jack.

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From ka8scp at wb1gof.org  Tue Oct  7 13:01:38 2025
From: ka8scp at wb1gof.org (Terry M. Stader - KA8SCP)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2025 14:01:38 -0400
Subject: [bars] FW: [mmra] Billerica Site Approved
In-Reply-To: <666d5313-b18b-4048-a276-3c4c8d82f9d1@gmail.com>
References: 
 <CAMQUtR_fRxW060h21MGZfnsd8hGK3aNrBD61-aq-8Upra8YrLg@mail.gmail.com>
 <666d5313-b18b-4048-a276-3c4c8d82f9d1@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01f301dc37b4$6e3f85d0$4abe9170$@wb1gof.org>

FYI

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	[MMRA-Board] Billerica Site Approved
Resent-Date: 	Mon, 06 Oct 2025 17:57:05 -0700

Our relocation to the Billerica Water Tower was approved by their select board earlier this evening.

-Bob



From ka8scp at wb1gof.org  Tue Oct  7 13:04:57 2025
From: ka8scp at wb1gof.org (Terry M. Stader - KA8SCP)
Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2025 14:04:57 -0400
Subject: [bars] FW: [mmra] Billerica Site Approved
In-Reply-To: <01f301dc37b4$6e3f85d0$4abe9170$@wb1gof.org>
References: 
 <CAMQUtR_fRxW060h21MGZfnsd8hGK3aNrBD61-aq-8Upra8YrLg@mail.gmail.com>
 <666d5313-b18b-4048-a276-3c4c8d82f9d1@gmail.com>
 <01f301dc37b4$6e3f85d0$4abe9170$@wb1gof.org>
Message-ID: <01f501dc37b4$e503ba60$af0b2f20$@wb1gof.org>

BTW... it is appropriate to use the 147.120 PL 146.2 output frequency for simplex conversations while the repeater is down. There was a QSO last night using that option with 2 stations between Chelmsford and Tewksbury.

Terry

-----Original Message-----
From: bars <bars-bounces at w1hh.org> On Behalf Of Terry M. Stader - KA8SCP via bars
Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2025 2:02 PM
To: bars at w1hh.org
Subject: [bars] FW: [mmra] Billerica Site Approved

FYI

-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject: 	[MMRA-Board] Billerica Site Approved
Resent-Date: 	Mon, 06 Oct 2025 17:57:05 -0700

Our relocation to the Billerica Water Tower was approved by their select board earlier this evening.

-Bob



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From Brendan_Welch at uml.edu  Tue Oct  7 20:27:56 2025
From: Brendan_Welch at uml.edu (Welch, Brendan)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 01:27:56 +0000
Subject: [bars] Billerica repeater finally getting on air, hopefully
Message-ID: 
 <DM6PR02MB3929C8CD4B291AA1B5AEEA458EE1A@DM6PR02MB3929.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>

I hear that the "cost" is that 70 people have to sign up as members of MMRA.
It convinced me to join.

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From trilsys at yahoo.com  Tue Oct  7 23:55:04 2025
From: trilsys at yahoo.com (Edward Lipchus)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 04:55:04 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [bars] from W1LPG
In-Reply-To: 
 <CA+irocqK=q5x85Z7bgVDcMhMPteHmZ3ETfpr9foDwTXHjoA9Cw@mail.gmail.com>
References: 
 <DM6PR02MB3929CCF9C1C55A62620DC2468EE7A@DM6PR02MB3929.namprd02.prod.outlook.com>
 <SA3PR05MB9740CD554CC6B59D7C81F97784E7A@SA3PR05MB9740.namprd05.prod.outlook.com>
 <CA+irocqK=q5x85Z7bgVDcMhMPteHmZ3ETfpr9foDwTXHjoA9Cw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <449652779.633688.1759899304874@mail.yahoo.com>

 CHIRP works nicely on Linux for programming HTs / small transceivers. You just have to be careful that you have a proper USB-A programming cable. There are very cheap ones that won't work. There is also a compatible equivalent of an EchoLink client called Qtel for making connections to compatible repeaters in the 2m+ range. Actually, I think it would work with any frequency compatible repeater. The only drawbacks I can see to it is that the repeaters list is very cumbersome to scroll through, and you can't change the name of a repeater in your "bookmarks" list to be more meaningful.
Ed LipchusKC1DBG
    On Thursday, October 2, 2025 at 07:19:52 PM EDT, David Marcucci via bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:  
 
 I think that’s also Windows only. However, there are other programs that will work with the NanoVNA. I had two different ones running but both were on windows. Maybe there is a Linux app out there somewhere but I am just in the process now of switching to Linux for my ham pc.
Dave KC1TLF
On Thu, Oct 2, 2025 at 7:07 PM Christopher Wood via bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:

I think this is the software to which he referred: NanoVNASaver
https://nanovna.com/?page_id=90From: bars <bars-bounces at w1hh.org> on behalf of Welch, Brendan via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 2, 2025 6:40 PM
To: Tim - K1DC via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
Subject: [bars] from W1LPG In the recent monthly talk, the presenter mentioned software namedSAVER (or similar) for using with the Nano VNA.
And a few months ago, Andy kb1oiq presented his fantastic collectionof just about all possible working ham software.  If that collection hasSAVER in it,  that there is an additional reason to put the two together,at minimum price and effort.  If not, Andy might be persuaded to addit in.
(My grammar school teachers said we never should say "that there")

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From douglas.bruce1 at comcast.net  Wed Oct  8 07:40:52 2025
From: douglas.bruce1 at comcast.net (DOUGLAS BRUCE)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 08:40:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [bars] Net Notes W1HH Net Wednesday Night October 8, 2025
Message-ID: <1800275102.31093.1759927252061@connect.xfinity.com>

Welcome to this week’s edition of "NET NOTES" !!  
 We will be having our BARS weekly net tonight at 08:00 pm EDT or 00:00 UTC

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From k1cpr at bd5.com  Wed Oct  8 08:56:06 2025
From: k1cpr at bd5.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Juan_Jim=C3=A9nez?=)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 09:56:06 -0400
Subject: [bars] Bars group POTA Parks on the Air
In-Reply-To: 
 <CADgCPsRvvktmdKFeQeNed1HfhSg7U_g_rapYtpaH=EeHM6hUrA@mail.gmail.com>
References: 
 <CADgCPsRvvktmdKFeQeNed1HfhSg7U_g_rapYtpaH=EeHM6hUrA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 
 <CANxHLxRh5tQivscrPPStza4jA7xTbZ3c6xLupHcKjBCJ2EJ=2g@mail.gmail.com>

I just asked Brendan Egan at Burlington.org, head of Parks and Recreation,
to see if they would allow us to activate Simonds Park.

73,
K1CPR
Juan


On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 10:31 PM ham operator via bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:

> hello Bars
>
> time to start group POTAS
>
> for all pota  info www.parksontheair.com
>
> lets make a few plans:
> where is the closest parks to the meeting location:
> US-4742. - warren manning state forest
> US-2435  - great brook farm state park
> US-4735. - carisle state forest
>
> is anyone available to do potas on a weekday
> is 10 am good on weekday or weekend
>
>
> the link above will help you understand what you need to bring to the pota
> site
>
> i am going to go check out warren manning
> and i will schedule a time and day
>
>
> --
>     73  Niece
> Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
>
> 20m  14.045    SLOW  CW  NET
> SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
> we use  netlogger.org
>
> when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
>
> check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
>
> _______________________________________________
> bars mailing list
> bars at w1hh.org
> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>
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From leandra at leandramac.com  Wed Oct  8 09:25:40 2025
From: leandra at leandramac.com (Leandra MacLennan)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 14:25:40 +0000
Subject: [bars] Bars group POTA Parks on the Air
In-Reply-To: 
 <CANxHLxRh5tQivscrPPStza4jA7xTbZ3c6xLupHcKjBCJ2EJ=2g@mail.gmail.com>
References: 
 <CADgCPsRvvktmdKFeQeNed1HfhSg7U_g_rapYtpaH=EeHM6hUrA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANxHLxRh5tQivscrPPStza4jA7xTbZ3c6xLupHcKjBCJ2EJ=2g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00F90F56-C9F9-4776-A4E5-83F43F275709@leandramac.com>

Unfortunately only state and national parks are eligible to be “POTA” parks. The official POTA parks are shown on the map on the POTA website.

A gathering at Simonds could be a good dry run for an activation of a POTA park on another day.

-Leandra AF1R

On Oct 8, 2025, at 9:57 AM, Juan Jiménez via bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:


I just asked Brendan Egan at Burlington.org, head of Parks and Recreation, to see if they would allow us to activate Simonds Park.

73,
K1CPR
Juan


On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 10:31 PM ham operator via bars <bars at w1hh.org<mailto:bars at w1hh.org>> wrote:
hello Bars

time to start group POTAS

for all pota  info www.parksontheair.com<http://www.parksontheair.com>

lets make a few plans:
where is the closest parks to the meeting location:
US-4742. - warren manning state forest
US-2435  - great brook farm state park
US-4735. - carisle state forest

is anyone available to do potas on a weekday
is 10 am good on weekday or weekend


the link above will help you understand what you need to bring to the pota site

i am going to go check out warren manning
and i will schedule a time and day


--
    73  Niece
Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235

20m  14.045    SLOW  CW  NET
SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
we use  netlogger.org<http://netlogger.org>

when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first

check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM<http://KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM>

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From kwaj.speedo at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 10:20:01 2025
From: kwaj.speedo at gmail.com (Christopher Lennon)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 11:20:01 -0400
Subject: [bars] Bars group POTA Parks on the Air
In-Reply-To: <00F90F56-C9F9-4776-A4E5-83F43F275709@leandramac.com>
References: 
 <CADgCPsRvvktmdKFeQeNed1HfhSg7U_g_rapYtpaH=EeHM6hUrA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANxHLxRh5tQivscrPPStza4jA7xTbZ3c6xLupHcKjBCJ2EJ=2g@mail.gmail.com>
 <00F90F56-C9F9-4776-A4E5-83F43F275709@leandramac.com>
Message-ID: 
 <CANEWh+uUKnAkqgbvpmFrsh2X3J+6ROExK7LdR0Kf87GHrP2f4g@mail.gmail.com>

Sadly, local parks are not PoTA parks.  You can go there and operate, but
you don't get credit for an activation in the PoTA universe.  PoTA parks in
the US are either state or federal.  Not all state and federal parks are on
the PoTA list.

https://pota.app/#/map

Will take you to the map of PoTA sites

Chris
W2BPL


Sent from my phone.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 10:26 AM Leandra MacLennan via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
wrote:

> Unfortunately only state and national parks are eligible to be “POTA”
> parks. The official POTA parks are shown on the map on the POTA website.
>
> A gathering at Simonds could be a good dry run for an activation of a POTA
> park on another day.
>
> -Leandra AF1R
>
> On Oct 8, 2025, at 9:57 AM, Juan Jiménez via bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:
>
> 
> I just asked Brendan Egan at Burlington.org, head of Parks and Recreation,
> to see if they would allow us to activate Simonds Park.
>
> 73,
> K1CPR
> Juan
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 10:31 PM ham operator via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
> wrote:
>
>> hello Bars
>>
>> time to start group POTAS
>>
>> for all pota  info www.parksontheair.com
>>
>> lets make a few plans:
>> where is the closest parks to the meeting location:
>> US-4742. - warren manning state forest
>> US-2435  - great brook farm state park
>> US-4735. - carisle state forest
>>
>> is anyone available to do potas on a weekday
>> is 10 am good on weekday or weekend
>>
>>
>> the link above will help you understand what you need to bring to the
>> pota site
>>
>> i am going to go check out warren manning
>> and i will schedule a time and day
>>
>>
>> --
>>     73  Niece
>> Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
>>
>> 20m  14.045    SLOW  CW  NET
>> SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
>> we use  netlogger.org
>>
>> when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
>>
>> check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> bars mailing list
>> bars at w1hh.org
>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>
> _______________________________________________
> bars mailing list
> bars at w1hh.org
> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> bars mailing list
> bars at w1hh.org
> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
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From k1cpr at bd5.com  Wed Oct  8 10:35:23 2025
From: k1cpr at bd5.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Juan_Jim=C3=A9nez?=)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 11:35:23 -0400
Subject: [bars] Bars group POTA Parks on the Air
In-Reply-To: 
 <CANEWh+uUKnAkqgbvpmFrsh2X3J+6ROExK7LdR0Kf87GHrP2f4g@mail.gmail.com>
References: 
 <CADgCPsRvvktmdKFeQeNed1HfhSg7U_g_rapYtpaH=EeHM6hUrA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANxHLxRh5tQivscrPPStza4jA7xTbZ3c6xLupHcKjBCJ2EJ=2g@mail.gmail.com>
 <00F90F56-C9F9-4776-A4E5-83F43F275709@leandramac.com>
 <CANEWh+uUKnAkqgbvpmFrsh2X3J+6ROExK7LdR0Kf87GHrP2f4g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 
 <CANxHLxTV7g_ZtOqBLKsdXo=W1BukggG-wQrLa4vouQ5iYmZmWA@mail.gmail.com>

Why are local parks not allowed for activations? Seems like a severely
shortsighted rule, considering all the great parks that are owned and run
by local authorities and are always looking for more ways to engage with
residents.

73,
K1CPR
Juan


On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 11:20 AM Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sadly, local parks are not PoTA parks.  You can go there and operate, but
> you don't get credit for an activation in the PoTA universe.  PoTA parks in
> the US are either state or federal.  Not all state and federal parks are on
> the PoTA list.
>
> https://pota.app/#/map
>
> Will take you to the map of PoTA sites
>
> Chris
> W2BPL
>
>
> Sent from my phone.
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 10:26 AM Leandra MacLennan via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Unfortunately only state and national parks are eligible to be “POTA”
>> parks. The official POTA parks are shown on the map on the POTA website.
>>
>> A gathering at Simonds could be a good dry run for an activation of a
>> POTA park on another day.
>>
>> -Leandra AF1R
>>
>> On Oct 8, 2025, at 9:57 AM, Juan Jiménez via bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I just asked Brendan Egan at Burlington.org, head of Parks and
>> Recreation, to see if they would allow us to activate Simonds Park.
>>
>> 73,
>> K1CPR
>> Juan
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 10:31 PM ham operator via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> hello Bars
>>>
>>> time to start group POTAS
>>>
>>> for all pota  info www.parksontheair.com
>>>
>>> lets make a few plans:
>>> where is the closest parks to the meeting location:
>>> US-4742. - warren manning state forest
>>> US-2435  - great brook farm state park
>>> US-4735. - carisle state forest
>>>
>>> is anyone available to do potas on a weekday
>>> is 10 am good on weekday or weekend
>>>
>>>
>>> the link above will help you understand what you need to bring to the
>>> pota site
>>>
>>> i am going to go check out warren manning
>>> and i will schedule a time and day
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>     73  Niece
>>> Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
>>>
>>> 20m  14.045    SLOW  CW  NET
>>> SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
>>> we use  netlogger.org
>>>
>>> when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
>>>
>>> check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> bars mailing list
>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> bars mailing list
>> bars at w1hh.org
>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> bars mailing list
>> bars at w1hh.org
>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>
>
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From kwaj.speedo at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 11:11:10 2025
From: kwaj.speedo at gmail.com (Christopher Lennon)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 12:11:10 -0400
Subject: [bars] Bars group POTA Parks on the Air
In-Reply-To: 
 <CANxHLxTV7g_ZtOqBLKsdXo=W1BukggG-wQrLa4vouQ5iYmZmWA@mail.gmail.com>
References: 
 <CADgCPsRvvktmdKFeQeNed1HfhSg7U_g_rapYtpaH=EeHM6hUrA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANxHLxRh5tQivscrPPStza4jA7xTbZ3c6xLupHcKjBCJ2EJ=2g@mail.gmail.com>
 <00F90F56-C9F9-4776-A4E5-83F43F275709@leandramac.com>
 <CANEWh+uUKnAkqgbvpmFrsh2X3J+6ROExK7LdR0Kf87GHrP2f4g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANxHLxTV7g_ZtOqBLKsdXo=W1BukggG-wQrLa4vouQ5iYmZmWA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 
 <CANEWh+sstRJWcpEUj1U5pvN8GBmQkWURDpGmh7PruFMT1jWzKg@mail.gmail.com>

Not being one of the PoTA organizers I can not definitively answer your
question.  I do have a suspicion.  There are people in the PoTA
organization that are state coordinators.  I assume that this means that
they interact with state and federal officials to get a certain level of
permission for parks in that state.  There is something to this because not
all state or federal parks in a state are on the PoTA list.  As an
activator it is somewhat comforting because a park being on the list
implies some of level of permission.  Being just state and federal parks
vastly limits the number of officials these coordinators need to interact
with.  So, I suspect that is simply a matter of work load for VOLUNTEER
coordinators.

In Mass it is hardly a problem.  There are lots of available parks.  Check
the map.

Chris
W2BPL


Sent from my phone.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 11:36 AM Juan Jiménez <k1cpr at bd5.com> wrote:

> Why are local parks not allowed for activations? Seems like a severely
> shortsighted rule, considering all the great parks that are owned and run
> by local authorities and are always looking for more ways to engage with
> residents.
>
> 73,
> K1CPR
> Juan
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 11:20 AM Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Sadly, local parks are not PoTA parks.  You can go there and operate, but
>> you don't get credit for an activation in the PoTA universe.  PoTA parks in
>> the US are either state or federal.  Not all state and federal parks are on
>> the PoTA list.
>>
>> https://pota.app/#/map
>>
>> Will take you to the map of PoTA sites
>>
>> Chris
>> W2BPL
>>
>>
>> Sent from my phone.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 10:26 AM Leandra MacLennan via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Unfortunately only state and national parks are eligible to be “POTA”
>>> parks. The official POTA parks are shown on the map on the POTA website.
>>>
>>> A gathering at Simonds could be a good dry run for an activation of a
>>> POTA park on another day.
>>>
>>> -Leandra AF1R
>>>
>>> On Oct 8, 2025, at 9:57 AM, Juan Jiménez via bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> 
>>> I just asked Brendan Egan at Burlington.org, head of Parks and
>>> Recreation, to see if they would allow us to activate Simonds Park.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> K1CPR
>>> Juan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 10:31 PM ham operator via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> hello Bars
>>>>
>>>> time to start group POTAS
>>>>
>>>> for all pota  info www.parksontheair.com
>>>>
>>>> lets make a few plans:
>>>> where is the closest parks to the meeting location:
>>>> US-4742. - warren manning state forest
>>>> US-2435  - great brook farm state park
>>>> US-4735. - carisle state forest
>>>>
>>>> is anyone available to do potas on a weekday
>>>> is 10 am good on weekday or weekend
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> the link above will help you understand what you need to bring to the
>>>> pota site
>>>>
>>>> i am going to go check out warren manning
>>>> and i will schedule a time and day
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>     73  Niece
>>>> Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
>>>>
>>>> 20m  14.045    SLOW  CW  NET
>>>> SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
>>>> we use  netlogger.org
>>>>
>>>> when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
>>>>
>>>> check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> bars mailing list
>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> bars mailing list
>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> bars mailing list
>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>
>>
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From kwaj.speedo at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 11:19:07 2025
From: kwaj.speedo at gmail.com (Christopher Lennon)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 12:19:07 -0400
Subject: [bars] Bars group POTA Parks on the Air
In-Reply-To: 
 <CANEWh+sstRJWcpEUj1U5pvN8GBmQkWURDpGmh7PruFMT1jWzKg@mail.gmail.com>
References: 
 <CADgCPsRvvktmdKFeQeNed1HfhSg7U_g_rapYtpaH=EeHM6hUrA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANxHLxRh5tQivscrPPStza4jA7xTbZ3c6xLupHcKjBCJ2EJ=2g@mail.gmail.com>
 <00F90F56-C9F9-4776-A4E5-83F43F275709@leandramac.com>
 <CANEWh+uUKnAkqgbvpmFrsh2X3J+6ROExK7LdR0Kf87GHrP2f4g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANxHLxTV7g_ZtOqBLKsdXo=W1BukggG-wQrLa4vouQ5iYmZmWA@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANEWh+sstRJWcpEUj1U5pvN8GBmQkWURDpGmh7PruFMT1jWzKg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 
 <CANEWh+tvO=a7ox1deUV0jae4rS0HS6gD-40QXqSv9Aa0AgZR1A@mail.gmail.com>

The problem with gathering at a non PoTA park is that you cannot call CW
POTA to be hunted by PoTA hunters.  Your small transmitter and compromise
antenna is just a beep in the world of ham radio.  At a PoTA park you
become the prize that PoTA hunters are seeking.  A little system can do
well in that circumstance.

Chris
W2BPL




Sent from my phone.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 12:11 PM Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Not being one of the PoTA organizers I can not definitively answer your
> question.  I do have a suspicion.  There are people in the PoTA
> organization that are state coordinators.  I assume that this means that
> they interact with state and federal officials to get a certain level of
> permission for parks in that state.  There is something to this because not
> all state or federal parks in a state are on the PoTA list.  As an
> activator it is somewhat comforting because a park being on the list
> implies some of level of permission.  Being just state and federal parks
> vastly limits the number of officials these coordinators need to interact
> with.  So, I suspect that is simply a matter of work load for VOLUNTEER
> coordinators.
>
> In Mass it is hardly a problem.  There are lots of available parks.  Check
> the map.
>
> Chris
> W2BPL
>
>
> Sent from my phone.
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 11:36 AM Juan Jiménez <k1cpr at bd5.com> wrote:
>
>> Why are local parks not allowed for activations? Seems like a severely
>> shortsighted rule, considering all the great parks that are owned and run
>> by local authorities and are always looking for more ways to engage with
>> residents.
>>
>> 73,
>> K1CPR
>> Juan
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 11:20 AM Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly, local parks are not PoTA parks.  You can go there and operate,
>>> but you don't get credit for an activation in the PoTA universe.  PoTA
>>> parks in the US are either state or federal.  Not all state and federal
>>> parks are on the PoTA list.
>>>
>>> https://pota.app/#/map
>>>
>>> Will take you to the map of PoTA sites
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> W2BPL
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my phone.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 10:26 AM Leandra MacLennan via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately only state and national parks are eligible to be “POTA”
>>>> parks. The official POTA parks are shown on the map on the POTA website.
>>>>
>>>> A gathering at Simonds could be a good dry run for an activation of a
>>>> POTA park on another day.
>>>>
>>>> -Leandra AF1R
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 8, 2025, at 9:57 AM, Juan Jiménez via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> I just asked Brendan Egan at Burlington.org, head of Parks and
>>>> Recreation, to see if they would allow us to activate Simonds Park.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> K1CPR
>>>> Juan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 10:31 PM ham operator via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hello Bars
>>>>>
>>>>> time to start group POTAS
>>>>>
>>>>> for all pota  info www.parksontheair.com
>>>>>
>>>>> lets make a few plans:
>>>>> where is the closest parks to the meeting location:
>>>>> US-4742. - warren manning state forest
>>>>> US-2435  - great brook farm state park
>>>>> US-4735. - carisle state forest
>>>>>
>>>>> is anyone available to do potas on a weekday
>>>>> is 10 am good on weekday or weekend
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> the link above will help you understand what you need to bring to the
>>>>> pota site
>>>>>
>>>>> i am going to go check out warren manning
>>>>> and i will schedule a time and day
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>     73  Niece
>>>>> Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
>>>>>
>>>>> 20m  14.045    SLOW  CW  NET
>>>>> SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
>>>>> we use  netlogger.org
>>>>>
>>>>> when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
>>>>>
>>>>> check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> bars mailing list
>>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> bars mailing list
>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
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From dmarcucci at gmail.com  Wed Oct  8 11:28:03 2025
From: dmarcucci at gmail.com (David Marcucci)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 12:28:03 -0400
Subject: [bars] Bars group POTA Parks on the Air
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Sounds like a good opportunity to create another radiosport. POTAx (like
TEDx).

Just as, "TEDx is a grassroots initiative, created in the spirit of TED’s
overall mission to research and discover “ideas worth spreading.” TEDx
brings the spirit of TED to local communities around the globe through TEDx
events."

POTAx could be described as, "POTAx is a grassroots initiative, created in
the spirit of POTA’s overall goal to extend ARRL’s National Parks on the
Air special event and "continue the fun beyond the one-year event", POTAx
brings the spirit of POTA to local parks and public sites through POTAx
activations."

Dave,
KC1TLF

On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 12:19 PM Christopher Lennon via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
wrote:

> The problem with gathering at a non PoTA park is that you cannot call CW
> POTA to be hunted by PoTA hunters.  Your small transmitter and compromise
> antenna is just a beep in the world of ham radio.  At a PoTA park you
> become the prize that PoTA hunters are seeking.  A little system can do
> well in that circumstance.
>
> Chris
> W2BPL
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my phone.
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 12:11 PM Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Not being one of the PoTA organizers I can not definitively answer your
>> question.  I do have a suspicion.  There are people in the PoTA
>> organization that are state coordinators.  I assume that this means that
>> they interact with state and federal officials to get a certain level of
>> permission for parks in that state.  There is something to this because not
>> all state or federal parks in a state are on the PoTA list.  As an
>> activator it is somewhat comforting because a park being on the list
>> implies some of level of permission.  Being just state and federal parks
>> vastly limits the number of officials these coordinators need to interact
>> with.  So, I suspect that is simply a matter of work load for VOLUNTEER
>> coordinators.
>>
>> In Mass it is hardly a problem.  There are lots of available parks.
>> Check the map.
>>
>> Chris
>> W2BPL
>>
>>
>> Sent from my phone.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 11:36 AM Juan Jiménez <k1cpr at bd5.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Why are local parks not allowed for activations? Seems like a severely
>>> shortsighted rule, considering all the great parks that are owned and run
>>> by local authorities and are always looking for more ways to engage with
>>> residents.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> K1CPR
>>> Juan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 11:20 AM Christopher Lennon <
>>> kwaj.speedo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sadly, local parks are not PoTA parks.  You can go there and operate,
>>>> but you don't get credit for an activation in the PoTA universe.  PoTA
>>>> parks in the US are either state or federal.  Not all state and federal
>>>> parks are on the PoTA list.
>>>>
>>>> https://pota.app/#/map
>>>>
>>>> Will take you to the map of PoTA sites
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>> W2BPL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my phone.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 10:26 AM Leandra MacLennan via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately only state and national parks are eligible to be “POTA”
>>>>> parks. The official POTA parks are shown on the map on the POTA website.
>>>>>
>>>>> A gathering at Simonds could be a good dry run for an activation of a
>>>>> POTA park on another day.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Leandra AF1R
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 8, 2025, at 9:57 AM, Juan Jiménez via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just asked Brendan Egan at Burlington.org, head of Parks and
>>>>> Recreation, to see if they would allow us to activate Simonds Park.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> K1CPR
>>>>> Juan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 10:31 PM ham operator via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> hello Bars
>>>>>>
>>>>>> time to start group POTAS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for all pota  info www.parksontheair.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lets make a few plans:
>>>>>> where is the closest parks to the meeting location:
>>>>>> US-4742. - warren manning state forest
>>>>>> US-2435  - great brook farm state park
>>>>>> US-4735. - carisle state forest
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is anyone available to do potas on a weekday
>>>>>> is 10 am good on weekday or weekend
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the link above will help you understand what you need to bring to the
>>>>>> pota site
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am going to go check out warren manning
>>>>>> and i will schedule a time and day
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>     73  Niece
>>>>>> Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 20m  14.045    SLOW  CW  NET
>>>>>> SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
>>>>>> we use  netlogger.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
>>>>>>
>>>>>> check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> bars mailing list
>>>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> bars mailing list
>>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> bars mailing list
>>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
> bars mailing list
> bars at w1hh.org
> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
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From k1cpr at bd5.com  Wed Oct  8 12:44:42 2025
From: k1cpr at bd5.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Juan_Jim=C3=A9nez?=)
Date: Wed, 8 Oct 2025 13:44:42 -0400
Subject: [bars] Bars group POTA Parks on the Air
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I like this idea.

73,
K1CPR
Juan


On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 12:28 PM David Marcucci <dmarcucci at gmail.com> wrote:

> Sounds like a good opportunity to create another radiosport. POTAx (like
> TEDx).
>
> Just as, "TEDx is a grassroots initiative, created in the spirit of TED’s
> overall mission to research and discover “ideas worth spreading.” TEDx
> brings the spirit of TED to local communities around the globe through TEDx
> events."
>
> POTAx could be described as, "POTAx is a grassroots initiative, created in
> the spirit of POTA’s overall goal to extend ARRL’s National Parks on the
> Air special event and "continue the fun beyond the one-year event", POTAx
> brings the spirit of POTA to local parks and public sites through POTAx
> activations."
>
> Dave,
> KC1TLF
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 12:19 PM Christopher Lennon via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
> wrote:
>
>> The problem with gathering at a non PoTA park is that you cannot call CW
>> POTA to be hunted by PoTA hunters.  Your small transmitter and compromise
>> antenna is just a beep in the world of ham radio.  At a PoTA park you
>> become the prize that PoTA hunters are seeking.  A little system can do
>> well in that circumstance.
>>
>> Chris
>> W2BPL
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my phone.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 12:11 PM Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Not being one of the PoTA organizers I can not definitively answer your
>>> question.  I do have a suspicion.  There are people in the PoTA
>>> organization that are state coordinators.  I assume that this means that
>>> they interact with state and federal officials to get a certain level of
>>> permission for parks in that state.  There is something to this because not
>>> all state or federal parks in a state are on the PoTA list.  As an
>>> activator it is somewhat comforting because a park being on the list
>>> implies some of level of permission.  Being just state and federal parks
>>> vastly limits the number of officials these coordinators need to interact
>>> with.  So, I suspect that is simply a matter of work load for VOLUNTEER
>>> coordinators.
>>>
>>> In Mass it is hardly a problem.  There are lots of available parks.
>>> Check the map.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> W2BPL
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my phone.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 11:36 AM Juan Jiménez <k1cpr at bd5.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why are local parks not allowed for activations? Seems like a severely
>>>> shortsighted rule, considering all the great parks that are owned and run
>>>> by local authorities and are always looking for more ways to engage with
>>>> residents.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> K1CPR
>>>> Juan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 11:20 AM Christopher Lennon <
>>>> kwaj.speedo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sadly, local parks are not PoTA parks.  You can go there and operate,
>>>>> but you don't get credit for an activation in the PoTA universe.  PoTA
>>>>> parks in the US are either state or federal.  Not all state and federal
>>>>> parks are on the PoTA list.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://pota.app/#/map
>>>>>
>>>>> Will take you to the map of PoTA sites
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>> W2BPL
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my phone.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 10:26 AM Leandra MacLennan via bars <
>>>>> bars at w1hh.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately only state and national parks are eligible to be “POTA”
>>>>>> parks. The official POTA parks are shown on the map on the POTA website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A gathering at Simonds could be a good dry run for an activation of a
>>>>>> POTA park on another day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Leandra AF1R
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2025, at 9:57 AM, Juan Jiménez via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just asked Brendan Egan at Burlington.org, head of Parks and
>>>>>> Recreation, to see if they would allow us to activate Simonds Park.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>> K1CPR
>>>>>> Juan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 10:31 PM ham operator via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hello Bars
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> time to start group POTAS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for all pota  info www.parksontheair.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lets make a few plans:
>>>>>>> where is the closest parks to the meeting location:
>>>>>>> US-4742. - warren manning state forest
>>>>>>> US-2435  - great brook farm state park
>>>>>>> US-4735. - carisle state forest
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is anyone available to do potas on a weekday
>>>>>>> is 10 am good on weekday or weekend
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the link above will help you understand what you need to bring to
>>>>>>> the pota site
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i am going to go check out warren manning
>>>>>>> and i will schedule a time and day
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>     73  Niece
>>>>>>> Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 20m  14.045    SLOW  CW  NET
>>>>>>> SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
>>>>>>> we use  netlogger.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> bars mailing list
>>>>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> bars mailing list
>>>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> bars mailing list
>>>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>> bars mailing list
>> bars at w1hh.org
>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>
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From k1vk at yahoo.com  Thu Oct  9 07:18:40 2025
From: k1vk at yahoo.com (Paul Pellegrini)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2025 12:18:40 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [bars] Bars group POTA Parks on the Air
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OK Chris –

I’ve just returned from a trip.  I got on the BARS net last night.  So, I’m ready to go.  I also have some equipment to add toyours.  The best time of day this time ofyear is in the early afternoon to dusk. It’s warmer and the bands are more lively then.  I suggest Great Brook Farm because we canseparate if we try to get 2 stations going.

I’m fine for Thursday and Friday.  No for Saturday.  The next few days after that look like rainouts.  Give me a call.  Send me an email.  Etc.

de K1VK - Paul


    On Tuesday, October 7, 2025 at 01:12:38 PM EDT, Christopher Lennon via bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:  
 
 I have been thinking the same.  
The Carlisle State Forest has limited parking and a limited area to set up.  Great Brook and Manning are good options.  I have activated Manning.  I have been saving Great Brook.
I can do Thursday/Friday weekday activations.  10:00 is good.  This week I have a dentist appt on Friday.   
Equipment I can bring:Xiegu G90 20W (CW and Phone) can do FT8 but not very experienced, never activated with it.15 Ah batteryFox River monopole w 40m coil(Can do 10-20m plus 40m)6m Carbon Fiber Mast can be used with20m EFHW20/40 m EFHW20m dipole 20m 1/4 monopole wire15m 1/4 monopole wireRig Expert for tuningPaddles and straight key.Coax to connect it all 
Can also bring enthusiasm and 18 WPM Morse.
Can also bring 2 single band CW QRP rigs with 6Ah battery
Come on K1VK.  It's time we got in the air together!
Chris W2BPL

Sent from my phone.
On Mon, Oct 6, 2025, 10:31 PM ham operator via bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:

hello Bars
time to start group POTAS
for all pota  info www.parksontheair.com
lets make a few plans:where is the closest parks to the meeting location:US-4742. - warren manning state forestUS-2435  - great brook farm state parkUS-4735. - carisle state forest
is anyone available to do potas on a weekdayis 10 am good on weekday or weekend

the link above will help you understand what you need to bring to the pota site
i am going to go check out warren manningand i will schedule a time and day

-- 
    73  Niece  Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
20m  14.045    SLOW  CW  NET   SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utcwe use  netlogger.org  

when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM

_______________________________________________
bars mailing list
bars at w1hh.org
http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org

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From ka1uln1 at gmail.com  Thu Oct  9 09:34:28 2025
From: ka1uln1 at gmail.com (ham operator)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2025 10:34:28 -0400
Subject: [bars] Bars group POTA Parks on the Air
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BARS POTA

i am hoping those that have never sone a POTA (parksontheair.com) will come
by to observe and then for the next POTA they will take part.  everyone
please. triple check the POTA rules (they are clear and well written)

but can BARS officers please approve a W1HH club pota call. so BARS can
compete again other clubs?

    73  Niece
Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235

20m  14.045    SLOW  CW  NET
SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
we use  netlogger.org

when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first

check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM



On Thu, Oct 9, 2025 at 10:24 Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Ugh!  I have commitments today and tomorrow, but free on Saturday.  We are
> out of phase!
>
> Beyond Saturday does look bad for weather.
>
> I work Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday.  For next week the storm heading up
> the coast is going to spoil Thursday.  What about Friday the 17th?  I have
> a commitment on Saturday, but Sunday the 19th is open too.
>
> I am good to do Great Brook.  I have hit parks all around it because I
> have been saving it.
>
> I am glad that Niece is pushing this, but I don't get the impression from
> the email thread that there is a lot of enthusiasm.  I think pick a date,
> and announce it to whomever might be interested.
>
> Chris
> W2BPL
>
>
> Sent from my phone.
>
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2025, 8:19 AM Paul Pellegrini <k1vk at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> OK Chris –
>>
>> I’ve just returned from a trip.  I got on the BARS net last night.  So,
>> I’m ready to go.  I also have some equipment to add to yours.  The best
>> time of day this time of year is in the early afternoon to dusk.  It’s
>> warmer and the bands are more lively then.  I suggest Great Brook Farm
>> because we can separate if we try to get 2 stations going.
>>
>> I’m fine for Thursday and Friday.  No for Saturday.  The next few days
>> after that look like rain outs.  Give me a call.  Send me an email.  Etc.
>>
>> de K1VK - Paul
>>
>>
>> On Tuesday, October 7, 2025 at 01:12:38 PM EDT, Christopher Lennon via
>> bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> I have been thinking the same.
>>
>> The Carlisle State Forest has limited parking and a limited area to set
>> up.  Great Brook and Manning are good options.  I have activated Manning.
>> I have been saving Great Brook.
>>
>> I can do Thursday/Friday weekday activations.  10:00 is good.  This week
>> I have a dentist appt on Friday.
>>
>> Equipment I can bring:
>> Xiegu G90 20W (CW and Phone) can do FT8 but not very experienced, never
>> activated with it.
>> 15 Ah battery
>> Fox River monopole w 40m coil
>> (Can do 10-20m plus 40m)
>> 6m Carbon Fiber Mast can be used with
>> 20m EFHW
>> 20/40 m EFHW
>> 20m dipole
>> 20m 1/4 monopole wire
>> 15m 1/4 monopole wire
>> Rig Expert for tuning
>> Paddles and straight key.
>> Coax to connect it all
>>
>> Can also bring enthusiasm and 18 WPM Morse.
>>
>> Can also bring 2 single band CW QRP rigs with 6Ah battery
>>
>> Come on K1VK.  It's time we got in the air together!
>>
>> Chris
>> W2BPL
>>
>>
>> Sent from my phone.
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2025, 10:31 PM ham operator via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> hello Bars
>>
>> time to start group POTAS
>>
>> for all pota  info www.parksontheair.com
>>
>> lets make a few plans:
>> where is the closest parks to the meeting location:
>> US-4742. - warren manning state forest
>> US-2435  - great brook farm state park
>> US-4735. - carisle state forest
>>
>> is anyone available to do potas on a weekday
>> is 10 am good on weekday or weekend
>>
>>
>> the link above will help you understand what you need to bring to the
>> pota site
>>
>> i am going to go check out warren manning
>> and i will schedule a time and day
>>
>>
>> --
>>     73  Niece
>> Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
>>
>> 20m  14.045    SLOW  CW  NET
>> SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
>> we use  netlogger.org
>>
>> when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
>>
>> check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> bars mailing list
>> bars at w1hh.org
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From k1cpr at bd5.com  Thu Oct  9 09:39:04 2025
From: k1cpr at bd5.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Juan_Jim=C3=A9nez?=)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2025 10:39:04 -0400
Subject: [bars] Bars group POTA Parks on the Air
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So where exactly will the next POTA be, and when?

73,
K1CPR
Juan


On Thu, Oct 9, 2025 at 10:34 AM ham operator via bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:

> BARS POTA
>
> i am hoping those that have never sone a POTA (parksontheair.com) will
> come by to observe and then for the next POTA they will take part.
>  everyone please. triple check the POTA rules (they are clear and well
> written)
>
> but can BARS officers please approve a W1HH club pota call. so BARS can
> compete again other clubs?
>
>     73  Niece
> Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
>
> 20m  14.045    SLOW  CW  NET
> SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
> we use  netlogger.org
>
> when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
>
> check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
>
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2025 at 10:24 Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Ugh!  I have commitments today and tomorrow, but free on Saturday.  We
>> are out of phase!
>>
>> Beyond Saturday does look bad for weather.
>>
>> I work Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday.  For next week the storm heading up
>> the coast is going to spoil Thursday.  What about Friday the 17th?  I have
>> a commitment on Saturday, but Sunday the 19th is open too.
>>
>> I am good to do Great Brook.  I have hit parks all around it because I
>> have been saving it.
>>
>> I am glad that Niece is pushing this, but I don't get the impression from
>> the email thread that there is a lot of enthusiasm.  I think pick a date,
>> and announce it to whomever might be interested.
>>
>> Chris
>> W2BPL
>>
>>
>> Sent from my phone.
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2025, 8:19 AM Paul Pellegrini <k1vk at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> OK Chris –
>>>
>>> I’ve just returned from a trip.  I got on the BARS net last night.  So,
>>> I’m ready to go.  I also have some equipment to add to yours.  The best
>>> time of day this time of year is in the early afternoon to dusk.  It’s
>>> warmer and the bands are more lively then.  I suggest Great Brook Farm
>>> because we can separate if we try to get 2 stations going.
>>>
>>> I’m fine for Thursday and Friday.  No for Saturday.  The next few days
>>> after that look like rain outs.  Give me a call.  Send me an email.
>>> Etc.
>>>
>>> de K1VK - Paul
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, October 7, 2025 at 01:12:38 PM EDT, Christopher Lennon via
>>> bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I have been thinking the same.
>>>
>>> The Carlisle State Forest has limited parking and a limited area to set
>>> up.  Great Brook and Manning are good options.  I have activated Manning.
>>> I have been saving Great Brook.
>>>
>>> I can do Thursday/Friday weekday activations.  10:00 is good.  This week
>>> I have a dentist appt on Friday.
>>>
>>> Equipment I can bring:
>>> Xiegu G90 20W (CW and Phone) can do FT8 but not very experienced, never
>>> activated with it.
>>> 15 Ah battery
>>> Fox River monopole w 40m coil
>>> (Can do 10-20m plus 40m)
>>> 6m Carbon Fiber Mast can be used with
>>> 20m EFHW
>>> 20/40 m EFHW
>>> 20m dipole
>>> 20m 1/4 monopole wire
>>> 15m 1/4 monopole wire
>>> Rig Expert for tuning
>>> Paddles and straight key.
>>> Coax to connect it all
>>>
>>> Can also bring enthusiasm and 18 WPM Morse.
>>>
>>> Can also bring 2 single band CW QRP rigs with 6Ah battery
>>>
>>> Come on K1VK.  It's time we got in the air together!
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> W2BPL
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my phone.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2025, 10:31 PM ham operator via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> hello Bars
>>>
>>> time to start group POTAS
>>>
>>> for all pota  info www.parksontheair.com
>>>
>>> lets make a few plans:
>>> where is the closest parks to the meeting location:
>>> US-4742. - warren manning state forest
>>> US-2435  - great brook farm state park
>>> US-4735. - carisle state forest
>>>
>>> is anyone available to do potas on a weekday
>>> is 10 am good on weekday or weekend
>>>
>>>
>>> the link above will help you understand what you need to bring to the
>>> pota site
>>>
>>> i am going to go check out warren manning
>>> and i will schedule a time and day
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>     73  Niece
>>> Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
>>>
>>> 20m  14.045    SLOW  CW  NET
>>> SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
>>> we use  netlogger.org
>>>
>>> when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
>>>
>>> check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> bars mailing list
>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> bars mailing list
>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>
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From asmith at netspace.org  Thu Oct  9 21:07:47 2025
From: asmith at netspace.org (Adam Smith)
Date: Thu, 9 Oct 2025 22:07:47 -0400
Subject: [bars] Bars group POTA Parks on the Air
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Hi Chris - re: your statement, "I assume that this means that they interact
with state and federal officials to get a certain level of permission for
parks in that state" - I'm also not a POTA organizer, but I have never seen
anything that suggests the POTA program has an official interaction with
any National or State governing authority.  They clearly state in the rules
that access to the parks must be available to the public, that the
activator is responsible for validating the park boundaries and governance,
and that you should comply with published policies and any direction from
rangers/staff.

So my understanding is that POTA Activators are just park users, like
anyone else.  The program hasn't arranged any permission on our behalf.
Like many activities, it's on the honor system when we submit our
activations - but when you do so you're asked to verify each time that
you've followed the program rules.

That said, as you mentioned, there are a wide variety of POTA locations in
our area (certainly more so than SOTA, for example).  The rules may be
arbitrary, but they're what creates the "game".  Go have fun and I hope to
meet you (or work you) in a park soon!

73,
Adam / AA1N

PS - there is a very active POTA Discord server which has a lot of
knowledgeable activators as well as some of the volunteers involved in the
program, if you want to go to the horse's mouth for validation.  I have
also had very fast and helpful responses to a "support ticket" email when I
made a mistake regarding a submitted log.

On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 12:11 PM Christopher Lennon via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
wrote:

> Not being one of the PoTA organizers I can not definitively answer your
> question.  I do have a suspicion.  There are people in the PoTA
> organization that are state coordinators.  I assume that this means that
> they interact with state and federal officials to get a certain level of
> permission for parks in that state.  There is something to this because not
> all state or federal parks in a state are on the PoTA list.  As an
> activator it is somewhat comforting because a park being on the list
> implies some of level of permission.  Being just state and federal parks
> vastly limits the number of officials these coordinators need to interact
> with.  So, I suspect that is simply a matter of work load for VOLUNTEER
> coordinators.
>
> In Mass it is hardly a problem.  There are lots of available parks.  Check
> the map.
>
> Chris
> W2BPL
>
>
> Sent from my phone.
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 11:36 AM Juan Jiménez <k1cpr at bd5.com> wrote:
>
>> Why are local parks not allowed for activations? Seems like a severely
>> shortsighted rule, considering all the great parks that are owned and run
>> by local authorities and are always looking for more ways to engage with
>> residents.
>>
>> 73,
>> K1CPR
>> Juan
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 11:20 AM Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Sadly, local parks are not PoTA parks.  You can go there and operate,
>>> but you don't get credit for an activation in the PoTA universe.  PoTA
>>> parks in the US are either state or federal.  Not all state and federal
>>> parks are on the PoTA list.
>>>
>>> https://pota.app/#/map
>>>
>>> Will take you to the map of PoTA sites
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> W2BPL
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my phone.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 10:26 AM Leandra MacLennan via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Unfortunately only state and national parks are eligible to be “POTA”
>>>> parks. The official POTA parks are shown on the map on the POTA website.
>>>>
>>>> A gathering at Simonds could be a good dry run for an activation of a
>>>> POTA park on another day.
>>>>
>>>> -Leandra AF1R
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 8, 2025, at 9:57 AM, Juan Jiménez via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> 
>>>> I just asked Brendan Egan at Burlington.org, head of Parks and
>>>> Recreation, to see if they would allow us to activate Simonds Park.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> K1CPR
>>>> Juan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 10:31 PM ham operator via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> hello Bars
>>>>>
>>>>> time to start group POTAS
>>>>>
>>>>> for all pota  info www.parksontheair.com
>>>>>
>>>>> lets make a few plans:
>>>>> where is the closest parks to the meeting location:
>>>>> US-4742. - warren manning state forest
>>>>> US-2435  - great brook farm state park
>>>>> US-4735. - carisle state forest
>>>>>
>>>>> is anyone available to do potas on a weekday
>>>>> is 10 am good on weekday or weekend
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> the link above will help you understand what you need to bring to the
>>>>> pota site
>>>>>
>>>>> i am going to go check out warren manning
>>>>> and i will schedule a time and day
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>     73  Niece
>>>>> Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
>>>>>
>>>>> 20m  14.045    SLOW  CW  NET
>>>>> SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
>>>>> we use  netlogger.org
>>>>>
>>>>> when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
>>>>>
>>>>> check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> bars mailing list
>>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> bars mailing list
>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> bars mailing list
>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
> bars mailing list
> bars at w1hh.org
> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>


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From kwaj.speedo at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 08:52:59 2025
From: kwaj.speedo at gmail.com (Christopher Lennon)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2025 09:52:59 -0400
Subject: [bars] Bars group POTA Parks on the Air
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Hey Adam,

Wanting to get the "I assume" out of my statement, and curious about how a
park becomes a POTA park I contacted Pete Knapp KN8PPY.  He is the Map
Representative for Massachusetts.  Nice guy and he got right back to me and
answered the question.  I have pasted his full response below.  Key is that
my assumption was wrong.  The POTA organization does not contact any state
or federal officials.  They verify that the parks meet certain criteria and
then put it on the list.

I am a little surprised, I always thought that at some level the local
officials knew about POTA.  For heavily activated parks I am sure they
do, but it might be a surprise at the more lightly traveled parks.

If you are interested in adding a state or federal park to the list then in
MA Pete is the person you would contact.

Chris
W2BPL

Pete's reply follows....
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hi Chris,

Thanks for reaching out, it is a very common question, however according to
the Rules https://docs.pota.app/docs/rules.html only State and Federal
entities are eligible for POTA.
Qualification of Parks, Trails, and Rivers for Addition to Parks on the Air

   1. All new parks must be owned and operated by a State/Provincial or
   Federal/National agency. We do not include parks that have part/shared
   ownership, sponsorship, or are operated by private organizations or local
   governments
   2. To be considered for inclusion, the park must meet the above
   requirements and offer an informational website detailing current boundary
   maps.
   3. POTA does not create sub-parks within existing parks if both parks
   are owned and operated by the same State/Provincial or Federal/National
   agency.
   4. To request a park addition or edit, please refer to Park Additions
   and Edits

If you happen to identify a potential park that meets these criteria, you
reach out to the State Mapping Representative with as much information as
you can so we can evaluate it and potentially add it to the database.  An
easy qualifier is whether the park has a .gov website or not.  We don't
interact with state or federal officials as they don't grant approval to
POTA as a non-profit volunteer organization.

Keep having fun with POTA, and we'll see you down the log!

73, Pete
KN8ppY


On Thu, Oct 9, 2025 at 10:08 PM Adam Smith <asmith at netspace.org> wrote:

> Hi Chris - re: your statement, "I assume that this means that they
> interact with state and federal officials to get a certain level of
> permission for parks in that state" - I'm also not a POTA organizer, but I
> have never seen anything that suggests the POTA program has an official
> interaction with any National or State governing authority.  They clearly
> state in the rules that access to the parks must be available to the
> public, that the activator is responsible for validating the park
> boundaries and governance, and that you should comply with published
> policies and any direction from rangers/staff.
>
> So my understanding is that POTA Activators are just park users, like
> anyone else.  The program hasn't arranged any permission on our behalf.
> Like many activities, it's on the honor system when we submit our
> activations - but when you do so you're asked to verify each time that
> you've followed the program rules.
>
> That said, as you mentioned, there are a wide variety of POTA locations in
> our area (certainly more so than SOTA, for example).  The rules may be
> arbitrary, but they're what creates the "game".  Go have fun and I hope to
> meet you (or work you) in a park soon!
>
> 73,
> Adam / AA1N
>
> PS - there is a very active POTA Discord server which has a lot of
> knowledgeable activators as well as some of the volunteers involved in the
> program, if you want to go to the horse's mouth for validation.  I have
> also had very fast and helpful responses to a "support ticket" email when I
> made a mistake regarding a submitted log.
>
> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 12:11 PM Christopher Lennon via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Not being one of the PoTA organizers I can not definitively answer your
>> question.  I do have a suspicion.  There are people in the PoTA
>> organization that are state coordinators.  I assume that this means that
>> they interact with state and federal officials to get a certain level of
>> permission for parks in that state.  There is something to this because not
>> all state or federal parks in a state are on the PoTA list.  As an
>> activator it is somewhat comforting because a park being on the list
>> implies some of level of permission.  Being just state and federal parks
>> vastly limits the number of officials these coordinators need to interact
>> with.  So, I suspect that is simply a matter of work load for VOLUNTEER
>> coordinators.
>>
>> In Mass it is hardly a problem.  There are lots of available parks.
>> Check the map.
>>
>> Chris
>> W2BPL
>>
>>
>> Sent from my phone.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 11:36 AM Juan Jiménez <k1cpr at bd5.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Why are local parks not allowed for activations? Seems like a severely
>>> shortsighted rule, considering all the great parks that are owned and run
>>> by local authorities and are always looking for more ways to engage with
>>> residents.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> K1CPR
>>> Juan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 11:20 AM Christopher Lennon <
>>> kwaj.speedo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sadly, local parks are not PoTA parks.  You can go there and operate,
>>>> but you don't get credit for an activation in the PoTA universe.  PoTA
>>>> parks in the US are either state or federal.  Not all state and federal
>>>> parks are on the PoTA list.
>>>>
>>>> https://pota.app/#/map
>>>>
>>>> Will take you to the map of PoTA sites
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>> W2BPL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my phone.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 10:26 AM Leandra MacLennan via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately only state and national parks are eligible to be “POTA”
>>>>> parks. The official POTA parks are shown on the map on the POTA website.
>>>>>
>>>>> A gathering at Simonds could be a good dry run for an activation of a
>>>>> POTA park on another day.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Leandra AF1R
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 8, 2025, at 9:57 AM, Juan Jiménez via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just asked Brendan Egan at Burlington.org, head of Parks and
>>>>> Recreation, to see if they would allow us to activate Simonds Park.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> K1CPR
>>>>> Juan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 10:31 PM ham operator via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> hello Bars
>>>>>>
>>>>>> time to start group POTAS
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for all pota  info www.parksontheair.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> lets make a few plans:
>>>>>> where is the closest parks to the meeting location:
>>>>>> US-4742. - warren manning state forest
>>>>>> US-2435  - great brook farm state park
>>>>>> US-4735. - carisle state forest
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is anyone available to do potas on a weekday
>>>>>> is 10 am good on weekday or weekend
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the link above will help you understand what you need to bring to the
>>>>>> pota site
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i am going to go check out warren manning
>>>>>> and i will schedule a time and day
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>     73  Niece
>>>>>> Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 20m  14.045    SLOW  CW  NET
>>>>>> SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
>>>>>> we use  netlogger.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
>>>>>>
>>>>>> check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> bars mailing list
>>>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> bars mailing list
>>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> bars mailing list
>>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>> bars mailing list
>> bars at w1hh.org
>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>
>
>
> --
> "Be well, do good work, and keep in touch." -Garrison Keillor
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From: asmith at netspace.org (Adam Smith)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2025 18:09:03 -0400
Subject: [bars] Bars group POTA Parks on the Air
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Thanks for sharing Chris!  I don't think it changes a lot about most
activations, but it is good to be clear and once again I am impressed by
the responsiveness and diligence of the POTA volunteers.

I will say informally that I have had good experiences from the bulk of
rangers/staff at (for example) Great Brook and Minute Man.  A particular
national park ranger at MM has indicated that there is awareness of (and
even support for) POTA in their professional community.  On another hand,
several folks have told me that they had less positive experiences at
Walden Pond - which is perhaps understandable given the physical layout and
the traffic levels there.  Caveat Activator?

While I am at it, since I mentioned MinuteMan park - I have heard from a
couple folks that due to the government shutdown the parking areas along
the Battle Road are closed (and other park amenities).  I don't know about
the North Bridge visitor center parking.  There may be places where you can
access the park area, but be prepared to be turned away etc if you try in
the current circumstance.  :(

73,
Adam / AA1N

"Be well, do good work, and keep in touch." -Garrison Keillor

On Fri, Oct 10, 2025, 09:52 Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hey Adam,
>
> Wanting to get the "I assume" out of my statement, and curious about how a
> park becomes a POTA park I contacted Pete Knapp KN8PPY.  He is the Map
> Representative for Massachusetts.  Nice guy and he got right back to me and
> answered the question.  I have pasted his full response below.  Key is that
> my assumption was wrong.  The POTA organization does not contact any state
> or federal officials.  They verify that the parks meet certain criteria and
> then put it on the list.
>
> I am a little surprised, I always thought that at some level the local
> officials knew about POTA.  For heavily activated parks I am sure they
> do, but it might be a surprise at the more lightly traveled parks.
>
> If you are interested in adding a state or federal park to the list then
> in MA Pete is the person you would contact.
>
> Chris
> W2BPL
>
> Pete's reply follows....
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Hi Chris,
>
> Thanks for reaching out, it is a very common question, however according
> to the Rules https://docs.pota.app/docs/rules.html only State and Federal
> entities are eligible for POTA.
> Qualification of Parks, Trails, and Rivers for Addition to Parks on the Air
>
>    1. All new parks must be owned and operated by a State/Provincial or
>    Federal/National agency. We do not include parks that have part/shared
>    ownership, sponsorship, or are operated by private organizations or local
>    governments
>    2. To be considered for inclusion, the park must meet the above
>    requirements and offer an informational website detailing current boundary
>    maps.
>    3. POTA does not create sub-parks within existing parks if both parks
>    are owned and operated by the same State/Provincial or Federal/National
>    agency.
>    4. To request a park addition or edit, please refer to Park Additions
>    and Edits
>
> If you happen to identify a potential park that meets these criteria, you
> reach out to the State Mapping Representative with as much information as
> you can so we can evaluate it and potentially add it to the database.  An
> easy qualifier is whether the park has a .gov website or not.  We don't
> interact with state or federal officials as they don't grant approval to
> POTA as a non-profit volunteer organization.
>
> Keep having fun with POTA, and we'll see you down the log!
>
> 73, Pete
> KN8ppY
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2025 at 10:08 PM Adam Smith <asmith at netspace.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Chris - re: your statement, "I assume that this means that they
>> interact with state and federal officials to get a certain level of
>> permission for parks in that state" - I'm also not a POTA organizer, but I
>> have never seen anything that suggests the POTA program has an official
>> interaction with any National or State governing authority.  They clearly
>> state in the rules that access to the parks must be available to the
>> public, that the activator is responsible for validating the park
>> boundaries and governance, and that you should comply with published
>> policies and any direction from rangers/staff.
>>
>> So my understanding is that POTA Activators are just park users, like
>> anyone else.  The program hasn't arranged any permission on our behalf.
>> Like many activities, it's on the honor system when we submit our
>> activations - but when you do so you're asked to verify each time that
>> you've followed the program rules.
>>
>> That said, as you mentioned, there are a wide variety of POTA locations
>> in our area (certainly more so than SOTA, for example).  The rules may be
>> arbitrary, but they're what creates the "game".  Go have fun and I hope to
>> meet you (or work you) in a park soon!
>>
>> 73,
>> Adam / AA1N
>>
>> PS - there is a very active POTA Discord server which has a lot of
>> knowledgeable activators as well as some of the volunteers involved in the
>> program, if you want to go to the horse's mouth for validation.  I have
>> also had very fast and helpful responses to a "support ticket" email when I
>> made a mistake regarding a submitted log.
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 12:11 PM Christopher Lennon via bars <
>> bars at w1hh.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Not being one of the PoTA organizers I can not definitively answer your
>>> question.  I do have a suspicion.  There are people in the PoTA
>>> organization that are state coordinators.  I assume that this means that
>>> they interact with state and federal officials to get a certain level of
>>> permission for parks in that state.  There is something to this because not
>>> all state or federal parks in a state are on the PoTA list.  As an
>>> activator it is somewhat comforting because a park being on the list
>>> implies some of level of permission.  Being just state and federal parks
>>> vastly limits the number of officials these coordinators need to interact
>>> with.  So, I suspect that is simply a matter of work load for VOLUNTEER
>>> coordinators.
>>>
>>> In Mass it is hardly a problem.  There are lots of available parks.
>>> Check the map.
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> W2BPL
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my phone.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 11:36 AM Juan Jiménez <k1cpr at bd5.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why are local parks not allowed for activations? Seems like a severely
>>>> shortsighted rule, considering all the great parks that are owned and run
>>>> by local authorities and are always looking for more ways to engage with
>>>> residents.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> K1CPR
>>>> Juan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 11:20 AM Christopher Lennon <
>>>> kwaj.speedo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Sadly, local parks are not PoTA parks.  You can go there and operate,
>>>>> but you don't get credit for an activation in the PoTA universe.  PoTA
>>>>> parks in the US are either state or federal.  Not all state and federal
>>>>> parks are on the PoTA list.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://pota.app/#/map
>>>>>
>>>>> Will take you to the map of PoTA sites
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>> W2BPL
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my phone.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 10:26 AM Leandra MacLennan via bars <
>>>>> bars at w1hh.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately only state and national parks are eligible to be “POTA”
>>>>>> parks. The official POTA parks are shown on the map on the POTA website.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A gathering at Simonds could be a good dry run for an activation of a
>>>>>> POTA park on another day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Leandra AF1R
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2025, at 9:57 AM, Juan Jiménez via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I just asked Brendan Egan at Burlington.org, head of Parks and
>>>>>> Recreation, to see if they would allow us to activate Simonds Park.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>> K1CPR
>>>>>> Juan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 10:31 PM ham operator via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> hello Bars
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> time to start group POTAS
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for all pota  info www.parksontheair.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> lets make a few plans:
>>>>>>> where is the closest parks to the meeting location:
>>>>>>> US-4742. - warren manning state forest
>>>>>>> US-2435  - great brook farm state park
>>>>>>> US-4735. - carisle state forest
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> is anyone available to do potas on a weekday
>>>>>>> is 10 am good on weekday or weekend
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the link above will help you understand what you need to bring to
>>>>>>> the pota site
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> i am going to go check out warren manning
>>>>>>> and i will schedule a time and day
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>     73  Niece
>>>>>>> Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 20m  14.045    SLOW  CW  NET
>>>>>>> SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
>>>>>>> we use  netlogger.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> bars mailing list
>>>>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> bars mailing list
>>>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> bars mailing list
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>>
>>
>> --
>> "Be well, do good work, and keep in touch." -Garrison Keillor
>>
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From kwaj.speedo at gmail.com  Fri Oct 10 18:00:40 2025
From: kwaj.speedo at gmail.com (Christopher Lennon)
Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2025 19:00:40 -0400
Subject: [bars] Bars group POTA Parks on the Air
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Funny, the only place I have run in to an actual ranger is at Walden.  I
was setting up in a grassy area near the main building and a ranger came
along.  I told him what I was doing and asked if it was okay to set up in
the grassy area. He said "Oh yeah.  The radio stuff is cool.  Most of you
set set up elsewhere, but you're fine there."

So Walden not always bad.  It probably helped that it was December and the
place was a ghost town!

Chris
W2BPL


Sent from my phone.

On Fri, Oct 10, 2025, 6:09 PM Adam Smith <asmith at netspace.org> wrote:

> Thanks for sharing Chris!  I don't think it changes a lot about most
> activations, but it is good to be clear and once again I am impressed by
> the responsiveness and diligence of the POTA volunteers.
>
> I will say informally that I have had good experiences from the bulk of
> rangers/staff at (for example) Great Brook and Minute Man.  A particular
> national park ranger at MM has indicated that there is awareness of (and
> even support for) POTA in their professional community.  On another hand,
> several folks have told me that they had less positive experiences at
> Walden Pond - which is perhaps understandable given the physical layout and
> the traffic levels there.  Caveat Activator?
>
> While I am at it, since I mentioned MinuteMan park - I have heard from a
> couple folks that due to the government shutdown the parking areas along
> the Battle Road are closed (and other park amenities).  I don't know about
> the North Bridge visitor center parking.  There may be places where you can
> access the park area, but be prepared to be turned away etc if you try in
> the current circumstance.  :(
>
> 73,
> Adam / AA1N
>
> "Be well, do good work, and keep in touch." -Garrison Keillor
>
> On Fri, Oct 10, 2025, 09:52 Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Adam,
>>
>> Wanting to get the "I assume" out of my statement, and curious about how
>> a park becomes a POTA park I contacted Pete Knapp KN8PPY.  He is the Map
>> Representative for Massachusetts.  Nice guy and he got right back to me and
>> answered the question.  I have pasted his full response below.  Key is that
>> my assumption was wrong.  The POTA organization does not contact any state
>> or federal officials.  They verify that the parks meet certain criteria and
>> then put it on the list.
>>
>> I am a little surprised, I always thought that at some level the local
>> officials knew about POTA.  For heavily activated parks I am sure they
>> do, but it might be a surprise at the more lightly traveled parks.
>>
>> If you are interested in adding a state or federal park to the list then
>> in MA Pete is the person you would contact.
>>
>> Chris
>> W2BPL
>>
>> Pete's reply follows....
>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Hi Chris,
>>
>> Thanks for reaching out, it is a very common question, however according
>> to the Rules https://docs.pota.app/docs/rules.html only State and
>> Federal entities are eligible for POTA.
>> Qualification of Parks, Trails, and Rivers for Addition to Parks on the
>> Air
>>
>>    1. All new parks must be owned and operated by a State/Provincial or
>>    Federal/National agency. We do not include parks that have part/shared
>>    ownership, sponsorship, or are operated by private organizations or local
>>    governments
>>    2. To be considered for inclusion, the park must meet the above
>>    requirements and offer an informational website detailing current boundary
>>    maps.
>>    3. POTA does not create sub-parks within existing parks if both parks
>>    are owned and operated by the same State/Provincial or Federal/National
>>    agency.
>>    4. To request a park addition or edit, please refer to Park Additions
>>    and Edits
>>
>> If you happen to identify a potential park that meets these criteria, you
>> reach out to the State Mapping Representative with as much information as
>> you can so we can evaluate it and potentially add it to the database.  An
>> easy qualifier is whether the park has a .gov website or not.  We don't
>> interact with state or federal officials as they don't grant approval to
>> POTA as a non-profit volunteer organization.
>>
>> Keep having fun with POTA, and we'll see you down the log!
>>
>> 73, Pete
>> KN8ppY
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 9, 2025 at 10:08 PM Adam Smith <asmith at netspace.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris - re: your statement, "I assume that this means that they
>>> interact with state and federal officials to get a certain level of
>>> permission for parks in that state" - I'm also not a POTA organizer, but I
>>> have never seen anything that suggests the POTA program has an official
>>> interaction with any National or State governing authority.  They clearly
>>> state in the rules that access to the parks must be available to the
>>> public, that the activator is responsible for validating the park
>>> boundaries and governance, and that you should comply with published
>>> policies and any direction from rangers/staff.
>>>
>>> So my understanding is that POTA Activators are just park users, like
>>> anyone else.  The program hasn't arranged any permission on our behalf.
>>> Like many activities, it's on the honor system when we submit our
>>> activations - but when you do so you're asked to verify each time that
>>> you've followed the program rules.
>>>
>>> That said, as you mentioned, there are a wide variety of POTA locations
>>> in our area (certainly more so than SOTA, for example).  The rules may be
>>> arbitrary, but they're what creates the "game".  Go have fun and I hope to
>>> meet you (or work you) in a park soon!
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Adam / AA1N
>>>
>>> PS - there is a very active POTA Discord server which has a lot of
>>> knowledgeable activators as well as some of the volunteers involved in the
>>> program, if you want to go to the horse's mouth for validation.  I have
>>> also had very fast and helpful responses to a "support ticket" email when I
>>> made a mistake regarding a submitted log.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 12:11 PM Christopher Lennon via bars <
>>> bars at w1hh.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Not being one of the PoTA organizers I can not definitively answer your
>>>> question.  I do have a suspicion.  There are people in the PoTA
>>>> organization that are state coordinators.  I assume that this means that
>>>> they interact with state and federal officials to get a certain level of
>>>> permission for parks in that state.  There is something to this because not
>>>> all state or federal parks in a state are on the PoTA list.  As an
>>>> activator it is somewhat comforting because a park being on the list
>>>> implies some of level of permission.  Being just state and federal parks
>>>> vastly limits the number of officials these coordinators need to interact
>>>> with.  So, I suspect that is simply a matter of work load for VOLUNTEER
>>>> coordinators.
>>>>
>>>> In Mass it is hardly a problem.  There are lots of available parks.
>>>> Check the map.
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>> W2BPL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my phone.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 11:36 AM Juan Jiménez <k1cpr at bd5.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why are local parks not allowed for activations? Seems like a severely
>>>>> shortsighted rule, considering all the great parks that are owned and run
>>>>> by local authorities and are always looking for more ways to engage with
>>>>> residents.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> K1CPR
>>>>> Juan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025 at 11:20 AM Christopher Lennon <
>>>>> kwaj.speedo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Sadly, local parks are not PoTA parks.  You can go there and operate,
>>>>>> but you don't get credit for an activation in the PoTA universe.  PoTA
>>>>>> parks in the US are either state or federal.  Not all state and federal
>>>>>> parks are on the PoTA list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://pota.app/#/map
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will take you to the map of PoTA sites
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>> W2BPL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my phone.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2025, 10:26 AM Leandra MacLennan via bars <
>>>>>> bars at w1hh.org> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately only state and national parks are eligible to be
>>>>>>> “POTA” parks. The official POTA parks are shown on the map on the POTA
>>>>>>> website.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A gathering at Simonds could be a good dry run for an activation of
>>>>>>> a POTA park on another day.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Leandra AF1R
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2025, at 9:57 AM, Juan Jiménez via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I just asked Brendan Egan at Burlington.org, head of Parks and
>>>>>>> Recreation, to see if they would allow us to activate Simonds Park.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>> K1CPR
>>>>>>> Juan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 6, 2025 at 10:31 PM ham operator via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hello Bars
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> time to start group POTAS
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> for all pota  info www.parksontheair.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> lets make a few plans:
>>>>>>>> where is the closest parks to the meeting location:
>>>>>>>> US-4742. - warren manning state forest
>>>>>>>> US-2435  - great brook farm state park
>>>>>>>> US-4735. - carisle state forest
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is anyone available to do potas on a weekday
>>>>>>>> is 10 am good on weekday or weekend
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> the link above will help you understand what you need to bring to
>>>>>>>> the pota site
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> i am going to go check out warren manning
>>>>>>>> and i will schedule a time and day
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>     73  Niece
>>>>>>>> Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 20m  14.045    SLOW  CW  NET
>>>>>>>> SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
>>>>>>>> we use  netlogger.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> bars mailing list
>>>>>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>>>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> bars mailing list
>>>>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> bars mailing list
>>>>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> bars mailing list
>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> "Be well, do good work, and keep in touch." -Garrison Keillor
>>>
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From geoffreyf at comcast.net  Fri Oct 10 20:33:32 2025
From: geoffreyf at comcast.net (geoffreyf at comcast.net)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 01:33:32 +0000
Subject: [bars] Fcc shutdown
In-Reply-To: <2013708588.104084.1760116587320@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <2013708588.104084.1760116587320@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: 
	<CH2PR17MB3928EC51DE227D1505C1072AA6ECA@CH2PR17MB3928.namprd17.prod.outlook.com>

I ran an exam on 9/26.  Those who passed received an email with their license's minutes a couple business days and before the shutdown.  By the time the normal FCC download happens, feeding ARRL, QRZ, HRO, LOTW, etc. they were closed. My new hams are legal and licensed but their call signs do not check out for lack of the download so they can't really do QSO's, sign up for ARRL, QRZ, get the jumpstart program and so on.

Geoff / W1GCF


________________________________
From: bars <bars-bounces at w1hh.org> on behalf of ARTHUR PIZER via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
Sent: Friday, October 10, 2025 1:16 PM
To: bars at w1hh.org <bars at w1hh.org>
Subject: [bars] Fcc shutdown

Fcc dot gov has a shut down notice.
Art
NF1A

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From kwaj.speedo at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 10:53:38 2025
From: kwaj.speedo at gmail.com (Christopher Lennon)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 11:53:38 -0400
Subject: [bars] RIT Boom!
In-Reply-To: <0E3A34F7-6F89-4607-A237-1F1FDC691499@k1oa.com>
References: 
 <CANEWh+t6u091_WdyYfa3Y18=3wO7z1LvDbG=MhC2QmD+vxoX8Q@mail.gmail.com>
 <0E3A34F7-6F89-4607-A237-1F1FDC691499@k1oa.com>
Message-ID: 
 <CANEWh+tTRbke5ptpnjx2x5n=UjwJJTQjhP7J4k0A8GyMwFiZ7g@mail.gmail.com>

Beating the dead horse maybe, but I just used this trick to break into
another pile up.  Boom!  First try.

Sent from my phone.

On Sat, Sep 27, 2025, 10:02 PM Scott Ginsburg <k1oa at k1oa.com> wrote:

> When I’m working a POTA station on CW I usually wait for the op to give a
> QRZ?, especially if I haven’t heard them id yet, before calling but it’s ok
> to throw your call in as soon as you feel the previous contact is complete.
> Waiting for the dit dits to be exchanged is good form.
>
> If you wait too long and double with the POTA station no worries, you’ll
> have another chance to call.
>
> On Sep 27, 2025, at 2:59 PM, Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> 
> I have a question about timing.  Sort of a good manners question. In PoTA
> the activator ends with a friendly e e, and the hunter replies with an e
> e.  When I hear the second e e I feel free to throw out my call sign.  If
> you wait long enough I can see that the end of your call sign may be in the
> clear.  Is waiting a longish time good gamesmanship or poor manners?
>
> Is all fair in love and ham radio?
>
> Chris
> W2BPL
>
>
> Sent from my phone.
>
> On Sat, Sep 27, 2025, 2:53 PM Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> All good advice.
>>
>> I have used split but only in structured ways like for QRP Fox Hunts
>> where the Fox expects to be looking up a kHz or so.
>>
>> Of the items on Jim's list the only thing I do regularly is modify my
>> code speed.  Mostly I try to match the CQ speed.  One of the knobs on my
>> transceiver is programmable, and I have it mapped to code speed, so I can
>> do that without a lot of fiddling.
>>
>> Chris
>> W2BPL
>>
>>
>> Sent from my phone.
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 27, 2025, 12:51 PM Scott Ginsburg <k1oa at k1oa.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Chris,
>>>
>>> Adding to Jim’s excellent CW pileup advice I would also recommend using
>>> the second VFO if you have one in your radio and enabling split mode. The
>>> typical setup is to listen to the DX station on VFO A and use VFO B for
>>> your transmit frequency. Some splits are large enough to be beyond the
>>> range of XIT.
>>>
>>> The ideal configuration is to mix the audio from both VFOs in your
>>> headphones so you can simultaneously hear when the DX is listening for a
>>> call and monitor the pileup while you tune VFO B for your next transmission.
>>>
>>> A popular pileup technique is to continually tune just beyond the last
>>> caller’s frequency, especially if you’re not running high power. I’ve also
>>> had success going 5 or even 10 kHz above the pileup where nobody is
>>> transmitting. Call there for a while and if you don’t have success move
>>> down 1 kHz at a time toward the edge of the pileup. If you have a spectrum
>>> display this can help you find the clear frequencies high up in the pileup.
>>>
>>> It’s a lot of listening and learning the DX station’s pattern as Jim
>>> points out. Low power DXing is a real challenge but VERY rewarding when you
>>> get ‘em in the log!
>>>
>>> gl and 73,
>>> Scott K1OA
>>>
>>>
>>> > On Sep 27, 2025, at 10:14 AM, Christopher Lennon via bars <
>>> bars at w1hh.org> wrote:
>>> > 
>>> > My rig is just 20W to a piece of wet string, so I struggle to break
>>> through pileups when operating CW.  This morning I was struggling as usual
>>> when I decided to try the Receiver Incremental Tuning (RIT) feature.  I
>>> tuned off the CQer by 30 Hz and then used the RIT to make it up on
>>> receive.  So I was transmitting high to him by 30 Hz.  Boom I got right
>>> in!
>>> >
>>> > I used the RIT trick with 30 to 50 Hz a few more times this morning.
>>> It didn't always work first time, but it was much better than my average
>>> rate of breaking in.
>>> >
>>> > I've known about RIT all along, but I didn't think it was worth the
>>> fiddling around.  Definitely worth a try.
>>> >
>>> > Chris
>>> > W2BPL
>>> >
>>> > Sent from my phone.
>>> > _______________________________________________
>>> > bars mailing list
>>> > bars at w1hh.org
>>> > http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>
>>>
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From k1cpr at bd5.com  Sat Oct 11 15:05:28 2025
From: k1cpr at bd5.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Juan_Jim=C3=A9nez?=)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 16:05:28 -0400
Subject: [bars] JOTA-JOTI?
Message-ID: 
 <CANxHLxSHPNdr39UJ2DxnwT=Q0p0yqe_CrsnF1f0UnBnM8zGXgw@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, so now I know a little more about POTA, but my friend in Argentina just
told me the Olavarría Ham Club is participating in JOTA-JOTI this weekend!

https://www.jotajoti.info/

That's *Jamboree on the Air* and *Jamboree on the Internet*, a Scouting
activity, as in www.scouting.org!

How come the club is not participating in this? Sure, POTA, SOTA all of
that is ok for the old timers, but could it be that us not participating in
a worldwide activity like JOTA/JOTI at least partially explain why we have
less than zero youngsters joining the hobby?

It might be too late to join this weekend, but I think we should definitely
plan to do this next year.

73,
K1CPR
Juan
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From kwaj.speedo at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 16:29:46 2025
From: kwaj.speedo at gmail.com (Christopher Lennon)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 17:29:46 -0400
Subject: [bars] JOTA-JOTI?
In-Reply-To: 
 <CANxHLxSHPNdr39UJ2DxnwT=Q0p0yqe_CrsnF1f0UnBnM8zGXgw@mail.gmail.com>
References: 
 <CANxHLxSHPNdr39UJ2DxnwT=Q0p0yqe_CrsnF1f0UnBnM8zGXgw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 
 <CANEWh+tZcY2M5QvG1jX2D8d-DQhKxoWqmsLRgxgfRbLhpZpiXQ@mail.gmail.com>

Here's the contact information for the local scouting council.

Council Information

Council Number : *227*

Council Name : *The Spirit of Adventure*

Address : *2 Tower Office Park *

City : *Woburn*

State : *MASSACHUSETTS*

ZIP Code : *01801*

Phone No. : *617-615-0004*
Questions you can get answers to:

Are they having JOTA events this year?

If so is it too late to support them?

If not is it too late to have an event and what kind of support do
they need?

If it is too late what do they need for next year?

Chris
W2BPL

Sent from my phone.

On Sat, Oct 11, 2025, 4:06 PM Juan Jiménez via bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:

> Ok, so now I know a little more about POTA, but my friend in Argentina
> just told me the Olavarría Ham Club is participating in JOTA-JOTI this
> weekend!
>
> https://www.jotajoti.info/
>
> That's *Jamboree on the Air* and *Jamboree on the Internet*, a Scouting
> activity, as in www.scouting.org!
>
> How come the club is not participating in this? Sure, POTA, SOTA all of
> that is ok for the old timers, but could it be that us not participating in
> a worldwide activity like JOTA/JOTI at least partially explain why we have
> less than zero youngsters joining the hobby?
>
> It might be too late to join this weekend, but I think we should
> definitely plan to do this next year.
>
> 73,
> K1CPR
> Juan
> _______________________________________________
> bars mailing list
> bars at w1hh.org
> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>
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From k1cpr at bd5.com  Sat Oct 11 16:37:59 2025
From: k1cpr at bd5.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Juan_Jim=C3=A9nez?=)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 17:37:59 -0400
Subject: [bars] JOTA-JOTI?
In-Reply-To: 
 <CANEWh+tZcY2M5QvG1jX2D8d-DQhKxoWqmsLRgxgfRbLhpZpiXQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: 
 <CANxHLxSHPNdr39UJ2DxnwT=Q0p0yqe_CrsnF1f0UnBnM8zGXgw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANEWh+tZcY2M5QvG1jX2D8d-DQhKxoWqmsLRgxgfRbLhpZpiXQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 
 <CANxHLxTpfv-pM1Zeq1RxW2wNPTU1pvWdQ-wKAs3JxgJobo23=g@mail.gmail.com>

All these questions are answered on the web site. No need to contact the
council now, the event is this weekend. Like POTA, it takes planning and
advance work.

73,
K1CPR
Juan


On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 5:29 PM Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Here's the contact information for the local scouting council.
>
> Council Information
>
> Council Number : *227*
>
> Council Name : *The Spirit of Adventure*
>
> Address : *2 Tower Office Park *
>
> City : *Woburn*
>
> State : *MASSACHUSETTS*
>
> ZIP Code : *01801*
>
> Phone No. : *617-615-0004*
> Questions you can get answers to:
>
> Are they having JOTA events this year?
>
> If so is it too late to support them?
>
> If not is it too late to have an event and what kind of support do
> they need?
>
> If it is too late what do they need for next year?
>
> Chris
> W2BPL
>
> Sent from my phone.
>
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025, 4:06 PM Juan Jiménez via bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:
>
>> Ok, so now I know a little more about POTA, but my friend in Argentina
>> just told me the Olavarría Ham Club is participating in JOTA-JOTI this
>> weekend!
>>
>> https://www.jotajoti.info/
>>
>> That's *Jamboree on the Air* and *Jamboree on the Internet*, a Scouting
>> activity, as in www.scouting.org!
>>
>> How come the club is not participating in this? Sure, POTA, SOTA all of
>> that is ok for the old timers, but could it be that us not participating in
>> a worldwide activity like JOTA/JOTI at least partially explain why we have
>> less than zero youngsters joining the hobby?
>>
>> It might be too late to join this weekend, but I think we should
>> definitely plan to do this next year.
>>
>> 73,
>> K1CPR
>> Juan
>> _______________________________________________
>> bars mailing list
>> bars at w1hh.org
>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>
>
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From kwaj.speedo at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 16:58:57 2025
From: kwaj.speedo at gmail.com (Christopher Lennon)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 17:58:57 -0400
Subject: [bars] JOTA-JOTI?
In-Reply-To: 
 <CANxHLxTpfv-pM1Zeq1RxW2wNPTU1pvWdQ-wKAs3JxgJobo23=g@mail.gmail.com>
References: 
 <CANxHLxSHPNdr39UJ2DxnwT=Q0p0yqe_CrsnF1f0UnBnM8zGXgw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANEWh+tZcY2M5QvG1jX2D8d-DQhKxoWqmsLRgxgfRbLhpZpiXQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANxHLxTpfv-pM1Zeq1RxW2wNPTU1pvWdQ-wKAs3JxgJobo23=g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 
 <CANEWh+t1Cd=im-j5A__qiwoJ0zrLLi0zu17XvbFOMGxUWL7Pag@mail.gmail.com>

I looked through the website and they directed hams to contact their local
council.  I would think that as a young vigorous ham you could manage
that.  It may not be too late.  Or are you not really concerned about the
hobby continuing down the road of geezer decrepitude and people who don't
use Venmo?

Chris
W2BPL


Sent from my phone.

On Sat, Oct 11, 2025, 5:38 PM Juan Jiménez <k1cpr at bd5.com> wrote:

> All these questions are answered on the web site. No need to contact the
> council now, the event is this weekend. Like POTA, it takes planning and
> advance work.
>
> 73,
> K1CPR
> Juan
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 5:29 PM Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Here's the contact information for the local scouting council.
>>
>> Council Information
>>
>> Council Number : *227*
>>
>> Council Name : *The Spirit of Adventure*
>>
>> Address : *2 Tower Office Park
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*
>>
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> City :
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*Woburn
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*
>>
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> State :
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*MASSACHUSETTS
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*
>>
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> ZIP Code :
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*01801
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*
>>
>> Phone No. : *617-615-0004*
>> Questions you can get answers to:
>>
>> Are they having JOTA events this year?
>>
>> If so is it too late to support them?
>>
>> If not is it too late to have an event and what kind of support do
>> they need?
>>
>> If it is too late what do they need for next year?
>>
>> Chris
>> W2BPL
>>
>> Sent from my phone.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025, 4:06 PM Juan Jiménez via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, so now I know a little more about POTA, but my friend in Argentina
>>> just told me the Olavarría Ham Club is participating in JOTA-JOTI this
>>> weekend!
>>>
>>> https://www.jotajoti.info/
>>>
>>> That's *Jamboree on the Air* and *Jamboree on the Internet*, a Scouting
>>> activity, as in www.scouting.org!
>>>
>>> How come the club is not participating in this? Sure, POTA, SOTA all of
>>> that is ok for the old timers, but could it be that us not participating in
>>> a worldwide activity like JOTA/JOTI at least partially explain why we have
>>> less than zero youngsters joining the hobby?
>>>
>>> It might be too late to join this weekend, but I think we should
>>> definitely plan to do this next year.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> K1CPR
>>> Juan
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> bars mailing list
>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>
>>
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From k1cpr at bd5.com  Sat Oct 11 18:04:23 2025
From: k1cpr at bd5.com (=?UTF-8?Q?Juan_Jim=C3=A9nez?=)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 19:04:23 -0400
Subject: [bars] JOTA-JOTI?
In-Reply-To: 
 <CANEWh+t1Cd=im-j5A__qiwoJ0zrLLi0zu17XvbFOMGxUWL7Pag@mail.gmail.com>
References: 
 <CANxHLxSHPNdr39UJ2DxnwT=Q0p0yqe_CrsnF1f0UnBnM8zGXgw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANEWh+tZcY2M5QvG1jX2D8d-DQhKxoWqmsLRgxgfRbLhpZpiXQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANxHLxTpfv-pM1Zeq1RxW2wNPTU1pvWdQ-wKAs3JxgJobo23=g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANEWh+t1Cd=im-j5A__qiwoJ0zrLLi0zu17XvbFOMGxUWL7Pag@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 
 <CANxHLxR-GEMLePCTYR1UifBUwjJYYh2cQW1M8mVBODpiBFz5tA@mail.gmail.com>

Now *that* was an idiotic reply typical of a motormouth HAM old fart. I
assume you must believe in some sort of deity, no? Are you not aware of why
you were created with two eyes, two years, but only *ONE* mouth?

I don't even know why I waste my time with this. This is the last straw, I
am out of this braindead mailing list.

73,
K1CPR
Juan


On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 5:58 PM Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I looked through the website and they directed hams to contact their local
> council.  I would think that as a young vigorous ham you could manage
> that.  It may not be too late.  Or are you not really concerned about the
> hobby continuing down the road of geezer decrepitude and people who don't
> use Venmo?
>
> Chris
> W2BPL
>
>
> Sent from my phone.
>
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025, 5:38 PM Juan Jiménez <k1cpr at bd5.com> wrote:
>
>> All these questions are answered on the web site. No need to contact the
>> council now, the event is this weekend. Like POTA, it takes planning and
>> advance work.
>>
>> 73,
>> K1CPR
>> Juan
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 5:29 PM Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Here's the contact information for the local scouting council.
>>>
>>> Council Information
>>>
>>> Council Number : *227*
>>>
>>> Council Name : *The Spirit of Adventure*
>>>
>>> Address : *2 Tower Office Park
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*
>>>
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> City :
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*Woburn
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*
>>>
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> State :
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*MASSACHUSETTS
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*
>>>
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>
>>> ZIP Code :
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*01801
>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*
>>>
>>> Phone No. : *617-615-0004*
>>> Questions you can get answers to:
>>>
>>> Are they having JOTA events this year?
>>>
>>> If so is it too late to support them?
>>>
>>> If not is it too late to have an event and what kind of support do
>>> they need?
>>>
>>> If it is too late what do they need for next year?
>>>
>>> Chris
>>> W2BPL
>>>
>>> Sent from my phone.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025, 4:06 PM Juan Jiménez via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, so now I know a little more about POTA, but my friend in Argentina
>>>> just told me the Olavarría Ham Club is participating in JOTA-JOTI this
>>>> weekend!
>>>>
>>>> https://www.jotajoti.info/
>>>>
>>>> That's *Jamboree on the Air* and *Jamboree on the Internet*, a
>>>> Scouting activity, as in www.scouting.org!
>>>>
>>>> How come the club is not participating in this? Sure, POTA, SOTA all of
>>>> that is ok for the old timers, but could it be that us not participating in
>>>> a worldwide activity like JOTA/JOTI at least partially explain why we have
>>>> less than zero youngsters joining the hobby?
>>>>
>>>> It might be too late to join this weekend, but I think we should
>>>> definitely plan to do this next year.
>>>>
>>>> 73,
>>>> K1CPR
>>>> Juan
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> bars mailing list
>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>
>>>
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From radiohamateur at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 18:22:28 2025
From: radiohamateur at gmail.com (Richard T)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 23:22:28 +0000
Subject: [bars] JOTA-JOTI?
In-Reply-To: 
	<CANxHLxR-GEMLePCTYR1UifBUwjJYYh2cQW1M8mVBODpiBFz5tA@mail.gmail.com>
References: 
	<CANxHLxSHPNdr39UJ2DxnwT=Q0p0yqe_CrsnF1f0UnBnM8zGXgw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANEWh+tZcY2M5QvG1jX2D8d-DQhKxoWqmsLRgxgfRbLhpZpiXQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANxHLxTpfv-pM1Zeq1RxW2wNPTU1pvWdQ-wKAs3JxgJobo23=g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANEWh+t1Cd=im-j5A__qiwoJ0zrLLi0zu17XvbFOMGxUWL7Pag@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANxHLxR-GEMLePCTYR1UifBUwjJYYh2cQW1M8mVBODpiBFz5tA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 
	<DS0PR11MB7803934C84E88063B84EA911F3ECA@DS0PR11MB7803.namprd11.prod.outlook.com>

In October, cooler heads abound. I just acquired books on POTA, got my rig, 706MkIiG, antenna and LiFePO4 battery.  On web it shows 3 parks in Lowell on map. We shall see what grows.

Sent from Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
Get Outlook for Android<https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
________________________________
From: bars <bars-bounces at w1hh.org> on behalf of Juan Jiménez via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 11, 2025 7:04:23 PM
To: Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
Cc: w1hh <bars at w1hh.org>
Subject: Re: [bars] JOTA-JOTI?

Now that was an idiotic reply typical of a motormouth HAM old fart. I assume you must believe in some sort of deity, no? Are you not aware of why you were created with two eyes, two years, but only ONE mouth?

I don't even know why I waste my time with this. This is the last straw, I am out of this braindead mailing list.

73,
K1CPR
Juan


On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 5:58 PM Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com<mailto:kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>> wrote:
I looked through the website and they directed hams to contact their local council.  I would think that as a young vigorous ham you could manage that.  It may not be too late.  Or are you not really concerned about the hobby continuing down the road of geezer decrepitude and people who don't use Venmo?

Chris
W2BPL


Sent from my phone.

On Sat, Oct 11, 2025, 5:38 PM Juan Jiménez <k1cpr at bd5.com<mailto:k1cpr at bd5.com>> wrote:
All these questions are answered on the web site. No need to contact the council now, the event is this weekend. Like POTA, it takes planning and advance work.

73,
K1CPR
Juan


On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 5:29 PM Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com<mailto:kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>> wrote:
Here's the contact information for the local scouting council.

Council Information

Council Number : 227

Council Name : The Spirit of Adventure

Address : 2 Tower Office Park <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>

<https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>

City : <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g> Woburn<https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>

<https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>

State : <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g> MASSACHUSETTS<https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>

<https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>

ZIP Code : <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g> 01801<https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>

Phone No. : 617-615-0004

Questions you can get answers to:

Are they having JOTA events this year?

If so is it too late to support them?

If not is it too late to have an event and what kind of support do they need?

If it is too late what do they need for next year?

Chris
W2BPL

Sent from my phone.

On Sat, Oct 11, 2025, 4:06 PM Juan Jiménez via bars <bars at w1hh.org<mailto:bars at w1hh.org>> wrote:
Ok, so now I know a little more about POTA, but my friend in Argentina just told me the Olavarría Ham Club is participating in JOTA-JOTI this weekend!

https://www.jotajoti.info/

That's Jamboree on the Air and Jamboree on the Internet, a Scouting activity, as in www.scouting.org<http://www.scouting.org>!

How come the club is not participating in this? Sure, POTA, SOTA all of that is ok for the old timers, but could it be that us not participating in a worldwide activity like JOTA/JOTI at least partially explain why we have less than zero youngsters joining the hobby?

It might be too late to join this weekend, but I think we should definitely plan to do this next year.

73,
K1CPR
Juan
_______________________________________________
bars mailing list
bars at w1hh.org<mailto:bars at w1hh.org>
http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
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From kwaj.speedo at gmail.com  Sat Oct 11 19:36:24 2025
From: kwaj.speedo at gmail.com (Christopher Lennon)
Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2025 20:36:24 -0400
Subject: [bars] JOTA-JOTI?
In-Reply-To: 
 <CANxHLxR-GEMLePCTYR1UifBUwjJYYh2cQW1M8mVBODpiBFz5tA@mail.gmail.com>
References: 
 <CANxHLxSHPNdr39UJ2DxnwT=Q0p0yqe_CrsnF1f0UnBnM8zGXgw@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANEWh+tZcY2M5QvG1jX2D8d-DQhKxoWqmsLRgxgfRbLhpZpiXQ@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANxHLxTpfv-pM1Zeq1RxW2wNPTU1pvWdQ-wKAs3JxgJobo23=g@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANEWh+t1Cd=im-j5A__qiwoJ0zrLLi0zu17XvbFOMGxUWL7Pag@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANxHLxR-GEMLePCTYR1UifBUwjJYYh2cQW1M8mVBODpiBFz5tA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 
 <CANEWh+uu4G_wRAbD2DdS9kFsg3dFBn-QBU=uhg9vi1Lkrhm64w@mail.gmail.com>

Self awareness is clearly not your strong suit.

Chris
W2BPL


Sent from my phone.

On Sat, Oct 11, 2025, 7:05 PM Juan Jiménez <k1cpr at bd5.com> wrote:

> Now *that* was an idiotic reply typical of a motormouth HAM old fart. I
> assume you must believe in some sort of deity, no? Are you not aware of why
> you were created with two eyes, two years, but only *ONE* mouth?
>
> I don't even know why I waste my time with this. This is the last straw, I
> am out of this braindead mailing list.
>
> 73,
> K1CPR
> Juan
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 5:58 PM Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I looked through the website and they directed hams to contact their
>> local council.  I would think that as a young vigorous ham you could manage
>> that.  It may not be too late.  Or are you not really concerned about the
>> hobby continuing down the road of geezer decrepitude and people who don't
>> use Venmo?
>>
>> Chris
>> W2BPL
>>
>>
>> Sent from my phone.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025, 5:38 PM Juan Jiménez <k1cpr at bd5.com> wrote:
>>
>>> All these questions are answered on the web site. No need to contact the
>>> council now, the event is this weekend. Like POTA, it takes planning and
>>> advance work.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> K1CPR
>>> Juan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025 at 5:29 PM Christopher Lennon <
>>> kwaj.speedo at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here's the contact information for the local scouting council.
>>>>
>>>> Council Information
>>>>
>>>> Council Number : *227*
>>>>
>>>> Council Name : *The Spirit of Adventure*
>>>>
>>>> Address : *2 Tower Office Park
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>> City :
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*Woburn
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>> State :
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*MASSACHUSETTS
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>
>>>> ZIP Code :
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*01801
>>>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/2+Tower+Office+Park+++%0D%0A+City+:++Woburn+%0D%0A+State+:++MASSACHUSETTS+%0D%0A+ZIP+Code+:++01801?entry=gmail&source=g>*
>>>>
>>>> Phone No. : *617-615-0004*
>>>> Questions you can get answers to:
>>>>
>>>> Are they having JOTA events this year?
>>>>
>>>> If so is it too late to support them?
>>>>
>>>> If not is it too late to have an event and what kind of support do
>>>> they need?
>>>>
>>>> If it is too late what do they need for next year?
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>> W2BPL
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my phone.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2025, 4:06 PM Juan Jiménez via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ok, so now I know a little more about POTA, but my friend in Argentina
>>>>> just told me the Olavarría Ham Club is participating in JOTA-JOTI this
>>>>> weekend!
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.jotajoti.info/
>>>>>
>>>>> That's *Jamboree on the Air* and *Jamboree on the Internet*, a
>>>>> Scouting activity, as in www.scouting.org!
>>>>>
>>>>> How come the club is not participating in this? Sure, POTA, SOTA all
>>>>> of that is ok for the old timers, but could it be that us not participating
>>>>> in a worldwide activity like JOTA/JOTI at least partially explain why we
>>>>> have less than zero youngsters joining the hobby?
>>>>>
>>>>> It might be too late to join this weekend, but I think we should
>>>>> definitely plan to do this next year.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> K1CPR
>>>>> Juan
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> bars mailing list
>>>>> bars at w1hh.org
>>>>> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>>>>>
>>>>
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From crlobdell1 at gmail.com  Sun Oct 12 20:42:42 2025
From: crlobdell1 at gmail.com (Chris Lobdell)
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2025 21:42:42 -0400
Subject: [bars] W1HH BARS NET CHECK INS 10/08/25 - Re: Net Notes W1HH Net
 Wednesday Night October 8, 2025
In-Reply-To: <1800275102.31093.1759927252061@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <1800275102.31093.1759927252061@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <a666a2df-a916-4f37-90ef-5937f9a168f4@Spark>

Many thanks to the following 16 folks who checked into the NET this past Wednesday!

W1OLU - Rick - Billerica
W2BPL - Chris - Bedford
KC1TLE - John - N. Billerica
KC1TLF - Dave - Tyngsboro
KC1MFL - Dave -Amherst, NH
W7LSG - Ken - Billerica
W1LUS - Bruce - Tewksbury
WA1ESU - Fred - Newburyport
KA1ULN - Niece - Andover
WB1HBU - Eric- West Lynn
W1LPG - Brendan - Bedford
N1WRN - Doug - Reading  (BARS Pres., NET Control Manager)
K1GLV - Dan -S. Chelmsford
N1HTS  - Jim - Tewksbury
KC1NMX -JoAnne- Lowell
K1VK - Paul - Bedford

Billerica and Bedford tie with 3 each!

Until Next Week, 73 & Good DX!

• Chris Lobdell KC1IUK





On Oct 8, 2025 at 8:40 AM -0400, DOUGLAS BRUCE <douglas.bruce1 at comcast.net>, wrote:
> Welcome to this week’s edition of "NET NOTES" !!
>  We will be having our BARS weekly net tonight at 08:00 pm EDT or 00:00 UTC
>
>   Show your support!! Please join in the fun … all are most welcome.
>
>   Chris, KC1IUK, will be your host tonight for the festivities!
>
>   Here is the repeater info:
>
>   QTH: Westford
>
>  FREQ: 146.955  MHz
>
>  CALL: WB1GOF
>
>   Offset:  - 0.6 MHz
>
>   Tone:  CTCSS 74.4 Hz
>
>   NOTICE!! WE NEED VOLUNTEERS TO HELP OUT BY DOING THE NET ONCE EVERY FEW WEEKS!!!!  Please contact Doug, N1WRN,      for more info.
>
>   73,
>   Doug
>   N1WRN
>   Billerica Amateur Radio Society Net Manager
>
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From dmarcucci at gmail.com  Wed Oct 15 19:59:43 2025
From: dmarcucci at gmail.com (David Marcucci)
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2025 20:59:43 -0400
Subject: [bars] W1HH BARS NET CHECK INS 10/15/25
Message-ID: 
 <CA+irocod6bfVcK_Q_VSfG1PuCn=Nf9LD7PbOuScoZJ9Bce1_7w@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks to all the stations that checked in tonight to the BARS net. We had
an active group of operators who do at least one ham radio-related activity
a week. Checking into VHF nets was a common theme! Looks like Billerica,
Bedford, and Lowell tied this week. If only John moved south, Billerica
could get that tie-breaking vote.

1. Rick, W1OLU - Billerica
2. John, KC1TLE - North Billerica
3. Dwight, KC1WXT - Billerica
4. Eric, WB1HBU - West Lynn
5. Fred, WA1ESU - Newburyport
6. Brendan, W1LPG - Bedford
7. Steve, KB1MGG - Lowell
8. Sean, KC1YAQ - Lowell
9. Doug, N1WRN - Reading
10. Bruce, W1LUS - Tewksbury
11. Chris, W2BPL - Bedford
12. Steven, KC1UBT - Wilmington
13. David, KC1TLF - Tyngsboro

73,
Dave KC1TLF
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From ka1uln1 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 17 17:36:09 2025
From: ka1uln1 at gmail.com (ham operator)
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2025 18:36:09 -0400
Subject: [bars] anyone up for a pota tomorrow 10/18/25
Message-ID: 
 <CADgCPsQQHhmqriJy6HVK678Gxa9gNU+kXt48rm-cqcge9yY=6A@mail.gmail.com>

hello  Bars  pota  people
     is  anyone  interested in a  pota  Saturday ?

     since  this  will be the  first   BARS  group  POTA
please  make sure you   check   pota rules & doc <https://docs.pota.app/>

any  suggestions  as  to  where  we  can go ?

-- 
    73  Niece
Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235

20m  21.045    SLOW  CW  NET
SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
we use  netlogger.org

when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first

check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
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From ka1uln1 at gmail.com  Mon Oct 20 16:24:17 2025
From: ka1uln1 at gmail.com (ham operator)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 17:24:17 -0400
Subject: [bars] pota meetup fridaY AT great brook
Message-ID: 
 <CADgCPsRALSuL5gNYd8H2Cvtjkn5XYXEgMdwjr111FrjuGs-2BQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Bars

Chris  (w2bpl)  are  going to meet  at  Great Brook
Friday  at   1:30PM  for  a   POTA

come and  observe  or  bring  your  pota stuff and
work  some pota  with us
make sure you have an account on

WWW.PARKSONTHEAIR.COM

-- 
    73  Niece
Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235

20m  21.045    SLOW  CW  NET
SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
we use  netlogger.org

when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first

check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
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From douglas.bruce1 at comcast.net  Mon Oct 20 19:05:58 2025
From: douglas.bruce1 at comcast.net (Doug)
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 20:05:58 -0400
Subject: [bars] ***SPAM*** Re:  pota meetup fridaY AT great brook
In-Reply-To: 
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References: 
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From douglas.bruce1 at comcast.net  Wed Oct 22 07:38:24 2025
From: douglas.bruce1 at comcast.net (DOUGLAS BRUCE)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2025 08:38:24 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [bars] Net Notes W1HH Net October 22, 2025
Message-ID: <558102030.148766.1761136704192@connect.xfinity.com>

Welcome to this week’s edition of "NET NOTES" !!  
 We will be having our BARS weekly net tonight at 08:00 pm EDT or 00:00 UTC

  Show your support!! Please join in the fun … all are most welcome.
 
  Chris, KC1IUK, will be your host tonight for the festivities! 

  Here is the repeater info:

  QTH: Westford

 FREQ: 146.955  MHz

 CALL: WB1GOF

  Offset:  - 0.6 MHz

  Tone:  CTCSS 74.4 Hz

  NOTICE!! WE NEED VOLUNTEERS TO HELP OUT BY DOING THE NET ONCE EVERY FEW WEEKS!!!!  Please contact Doug, N1WRN,      for more info.

  73,
  Doug
  N1WRN
  Billerica Amateur Radio Society Net Manager
 
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From ka1uln1 at gmail.com  Wed Oct 22 15:51:32 2025
From: ka1uln1 at gmail.com (ham operator)
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2025 16:51:32 -0400
Subject: [bars] pota logsheet
Message-ID: 
 <CADgCPsRMdWF9NrtTtdZx92YXOuwUd9c2kWx+9Q=0fkvmDHKO8g@mail.gmail.com>

just  FYI
here is  link to POTA logsheet
<https://docs.pota.app/assets/documents/POTA_Logsheet_v1.2.pdf>

u can find this at
POTA_Logsheet_v1.2.pdf
<https://docs.pota.app/assets/documents/POTA_Logsheet_v1.2.pdf>
-- 
    73  Niece
Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235

20m  21.045    SLOW  CW  NET
SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
we use  netlogger.org

***************************************************************************
check out my  POPUP  *VERY SLOW  CW NET  on netlogger.org
<http://netlogger.org> *
*15 minutes  long*
*****************************************************************************

when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first

check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
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From wa1gsf at comcast.net  Thu Oct 23 09:37:10 2025
From: wa1gsf at comcast.net (Marla A. Wallace)
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2025 10:37:10 -0400
Subject: [bars] Newsletter deadline
Message-ID: <0h4v5ke3t6u5yef50564nrfq.1761230230118@email.android.com>

Submissions for the November newsletter are due by noon on Wednesday, October 29.

Me ke aloha
-- Marla

From kwaj.speedo at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 06:38:20 2025
From: kwaj.speedo at gmail.com (Christopher Lennon)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 07:38:20 -0400
Subject: [bars] pota meetup fridaY AT great brook
In-Reply-To: 
 <CADgCPsRALSuL5gNYd8H2Cvtjkn5XYXEgMdwjr111FrjuGs-2BQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: 
 <CADgCPsRALSuL5gNYd8H2Cvtjkn5XYXEgMdwjr111FrjuGs-2BQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 
 <CANEWh+uuUw4_eTcF+nc-04N=OUhxDssVUWVPr3EjCwRE8eU+KQ@mail.gmail.com>

Looks like some chance of rain this afternoon.  Not the first time I've
gotten wet activating.

I am aiming for the upper lot by the ski touring barn.  Driving a white
Transit van.

I will have my HT monitoring the UHF simplex calling freq (446.000 MHz) so
we can find each other.

Chris
W2BPL

Sent from my phone.

On Mon, Oct 20, 2025, 5:24 PM ham operator via bars <bars at w1hh.org> wrote:

> Hello Bars
>
> Chris  (w2bpl)  are  going to meet  at  Great Brook
> Friday  at   1:30PM  for  a   POTA
>
> come and  observe  or  bring  your  pota stuff and
> work  some pota  with us
> make sure you have an account on
>
> WWW.PARKSONTHEAIR.COM
>
> --
>     73  Niece
> Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
>
> 20m  21.045    SLOW  CW  NET
> SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
> we use  netlogger.org
>
> when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
>
> check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
>
> _______________________________________________
> bars mailing list
> bars at w1hh.org
> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>
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From kwaj.speedo at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 16:58:05 2025
From: kwaj.speedo at gmail.com (Christopher Lennon)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 17:58:05 -0400
Subject: [bars] Fwd: POTA today
In-Reply-To: 
 <CADgCPsTrtKRMb6vZ2=G1Ct0maeHfyrAfPb9Z_VChW7fouCM2Zg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2078896099.203717.1761308490761.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2078896099.203717.1761308490761@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CADgCPsQqk=ZAxEdJyrm9wm5dvSd94ZFpUMGk_VmZjvNSE_xxwg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANEWh+sqoE6MJyb5sR4FpP039UWnVec0x0JcyhrLbGAhHKj1pg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADgCPsTrtKRMb6vZ2=G1Ct0maeHfyrAfPb9Z_VChW7fouCM2Zg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 
 <CANEWh+vvhhiaU2_m2f+T4zKvX6c6d=a_Pd9eHYS=LQj49etSvQ@mail.gmail.com>

I think Niece meant to send this to the group.  See her message below.

It was a very good day.  Three activators, one BARS spectator and a drive
by ham out for a walk in Great Brook Farms.

Picture of K1VK above.  I think he has some pictures of Niece and I.

Chris
W2BPL

Sent from my phone.

---------- Forwarded message ---------
From: ham operator <ka1uln1 at gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Oct 24, 2025, 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: POTA today
To: Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>


Hello  Bars,
   we  had a   really  good    POTA  at  US-2435 (great Brook State  park -
Carisle)
we (Paul, Chris and  Niece)
I think   Doug and a  few others  are  going there  Saturday  (tomorrow)
to do a  pota.     please  go over  only if it is  to observe.
next  year   2026  is the  POTA YEAR FOR BARS.  so get ready.

we  will need  approval for  a  W1HH callsign  to work other  clubs.
so   Officers  please   look into this and  approve!

check out   POTA document & rules <https://docs.pota.app/>

On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 9:29 AM Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Okay!  I will be in Arlington until around 12:30.  I will get to Great
> Brook when I can.  Maybe before 1:30.
>
> Weather Bug is saying 25 percent chance of rain.  Odds are still in our
> favor.
>
> This should be fun!
>
> Chris
> W2BPL
>
> Sent from my phone.
>
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2025, 8:30 AM ham operator <ka1uln1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> very awesome
>>
>> i will be there a bit earlier also
>> i am planning on getting 10 qsos in 2 hours. and then maybe. get u guys
>> ideas on my antenna i am building
>>
>> see ya soon. BTW i am not seeing rain
>>
>>
>>
>>     73  Niece
>> Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
>>
>> 20m  21.045    SLOW  CW  NET
>> SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
>> we use  netlogger.org
>>
>>
>> ***************************************************************************
>> check out my  POPUP  *VERY SLOW  CW NET  on netlogger.org
>> <http://netlogger.org> *
>> *15 minutes  long*
>>
>> *****************************************************************************
>>
>> when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
>>
>> check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 08:21 Paul Pellegrini <k1vk at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris and Niece -
>>>
>>> I got my POTA station out of mothballs yesterday.
>>> I needed to collect lots of pieces scattered around my shack.
>>> It is now working OK and I made three 20M contacts on 5W.
>>> At 5W my battery will last about 2 hours.
>>> We'll see what happens when I get to Great Brook.
>>> I will be there before you ( 1PM ?) because I have to set up the station.
>>>
>>> See you after lunch
>>> de K1VK - Paul
>>>
>>

-- 
    73  Niece
Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235

20m  21.045    SLOW  CW  NET
SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
we use  netlogger.org

***************************************************************************
check out my  POPUP  *VERY SLOW  CW NET  on netlogger.org
<http://netlogger.org> *
*15 minutes  long*
*****************************************************************************

when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first

check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
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From dmarcucci at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 18:50:14 2025
From: dmarcucci at gmail.com (David Marcucci)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 19:50:14 -0400
Subject: [bars] Fwd: POTA today
In-Reply-To: 
 <CANEWh+vvhhiaU2_m2f+T4zKvX6c6d=a_Pd9eHYS=LQj49etSvQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2078896099.203717.1761308490761.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2078896099.203717.1761308490761@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CADgCPsQqk=ZAxEdJyrm9wm5dvSd94ZFpUMGk_VmZjvNSE_xxwg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANEWh+sqoE6MJyb5sR4FpP039UWnVec0x0JcyhrLbGAhHKj1pg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CADgCPsTrtKRMb6vZ2=G1Ct0maeHfyrAfPb9Z_VChW7fouCM2Zg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANEWh+vvhhiaU2_m2f+T4zKvX6c6d=a_Pd9eHYS=LQj49etSvQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 
 <CA+irocoVOoQLVBTBzn6Akf-6y3r8T8kWaEs6QtxDJfB0AKwKiw@mail.gmail.com>

I saw people responding to K1VK on FT8 but never got a decode from your
station. I’m glad you all had a good activation!

73,
Dave KC1TLF

On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 5:58 PM Christopher Lennon via bars <bars at w1hh.org>
wrote:

>
>
> I think Niece meant to send this to the group.  See her message below.
>
> It was a very good day.  Three activators, one BARS spectator and a drive
> by ham out for a walk in Great Brook Farms.
>
> Picture of K1VK above.  I think he has some pictures of Niece and I.
>
> Chris
> W2BPL
>
> Sent from my phone.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: ham operator <ka1uln1 at gmail.com>
> Date: Fri, Oct 24, 2025, 5:28 PM
> Subject: Re: POTA today
> To: Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
>
>
> Hello  Bars,
>    we  had a   really  good    POTA  at  US-2435 (great Brook State  park
> - Carisle)
> we (Paul, Chris and  Niece)
> I think   Doug and a  few others  are  going there  Saturday  (tomorrow)
> to do a  pota.     please  go over  only if it is  to observe.
> next  year   2026  is the  POTA YEAR FOR BARS.  so get ready.
>
> we  will need  approval for  a  W1HH callsign  to work other  clubs.
> so   Officers  please   look into this and  approve!
>
> check out   POTA document & rules <https://docs.pota.app/>
>
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 9:29 AM Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Okay!  I will be in Arlington until around 12:30.  I will get to Great
>> Brook when I can.  Maybe before 1:30.
>>
>> Weather Bug is saying 25 percent chance of rain.  Odds are still in our
>> favor.
>>
>> This should be fun!
>>
>> Chris
>> W2BPL
>>
>> Sent from my phone.
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2025, 8:30 AM ham operator <ka1uln1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> very awesome
>>>
>>> i will be there a bit earlier also
>>> i am planning on getting 10 qsos in 2 hours. and then maybe. get u guys
>>> ideas on my antenna i am building
>>>
>>> see ya soon. BTW i am not seeing rain
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     73  Niece
>>> Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
>>>
>>> 20m  21.045    SLOW  CW  NET
>>> SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
>>> we use  netlogger.org
>>>
>>>
>>> ***************************************************************************
>>> check out my  POPUP  *VERY SLOW  CW NET  on netlogger.org
>>> <http://netlogger.org> *
>>> *15 minutes  long*
>>>
>>> *****************************************************************************
>>>
>>> when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
>>>
>>> check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 08:21 Paul Pellegrini <k1vk at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Chris and Niece -
>>>>
>>>> I got my POTA station out of mothballs yesterday.
>>>> I needed to collect lots of pieces scattered around my shack.
>>>> It is now working OK and I made three 20M contacts on 5W.
>>>> At 5W my battery will last about 2 hours.
>>>> We'll see what happens when I get to Great Brook.
>>>> I will be there before you ( 1PM ?) because I have to set up the
>>>> station.
>>>>
>>>> See you after lunch
>>>> de K1VK - Paul
>>>>
>>>
>
> --
>     73  Niece
> Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
>
> 20m  21.045    SLOW  CW  NET
> SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
> we use  netlogger.org
>
> ***************************************************************************
> check out my  POPUP  *VERY SLOW  CW NET  on netlogger.org
> <http://netlogger.org> *
> *15 minutes  long*
>
> *****************************************************************************
>
> when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
>
> check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
>
> _______________________________________________
> bars mailing list
> bars at w1hh.org
> http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org
>
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From ka1uln1 at gmail.com  Fri Oct 24 16:28:16 2025
From: ka1uln1 at gmail.com (ham operator)
Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2025 17:28:16 -0400
Subject: [bars] POTA today
In-Reply-To: 
 <CANEWh+sqoE6MJyb5sR4FpP039UWnVec0x0JcyhrLbGAhHKj1pg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2078896099.203717.1761308490761.ref@mail.yahoo.com>
 <2078896099.203717.1761308490761@mail.yahoo.com>
 <CADgCPsQqk=ZAxEdJyrm9wm5dvSd94ZFpUMGk_VmZjvNSE_xxwg@mail.gmail.com>
 <CANEWh+sqoE6MJyb5sR4FpP039UWnVec0x0JcyhrLbGAhHKj1pg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: 
 <CADgCPsTrtKRMb6vZ2=G1Ct0maeHfyrAfPb9Z_VChW7fouCM2Zg@mail.gmail.com>

Hello  Bars,
   we  had a   really  good    POTA  at  US-2435 (great Brook State  park -
Carisle)
we (Paul, Chris and  Niece)
I think   Doug and a  few others  are  going there  Saturday  (tomorrow)
to do a  pota.     please  go over  only if it is  to observe.
next  year   2026  is the  POTA YEAR FOR BARS.  so get ready.

we  will need  approval for  a  W1HH callsign  to work other  clubs.
so   Officers  please   look into this and  approve!

check out   POTA document & rules <https://docs.pota.app/>

On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 9:29 AM Christopher Lennon <kwaj.speedo at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Okay!  I will be in Arlington until around 12:30.  I will get to Great
> Brook when I can.  Maybe before 1:30.
>
> Weather Bug is saying 25 percent chance of rain.  Odds are still in our
> favor.
>
> This should be fun!
>
> Chris
> W2BPL
>
> Sent from my phone.
>
> On Fri, Oct 24, 2025, 8:30 AM ham operator <ka1uln1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> very awesome
>>
>> i will be there a bit earlier also
>> i am planning on getting 10 qsos in 2 hours. and then maybe. get u guys
>> ideas on my antenna i am building
>>
>> see ya soon. BTW i am not seeing rain
>>
>>
>>
>>     73  Niece
>> Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235
>>
>> 20m  21.045    SLOW  CW  NET
>> SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
>> we use  netlogger.org
>>
>>
>> ***************************************************************************
>> check out my  POPUP  *VERY SLOW  CW NET  on netlogger.org
>> <http://netlogger.org> *
>> *15 minutes  long*
>>
>> *****************************************************************************
>>
>> when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first
>>
>> check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 24, 2025 at 08:21 Paul Pellegrini <k1vk at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Chris and Niece -
>>>
>>> I got my POTA station out of mothballs yesterday.
>>> I needed to collect lots of pieces scattered around my shack.
>>> It is now working OK and I made three 20M contacts on 5W.
>>> At 5W my battery will last about 2 hours.
>>> We'll see what happens when I get to Great Brook.
>>> I will be there before you ( 1PM ?) because I have to set up the station.
>>>
>>> See you after lunch
>>> de K1VK - Paul
>>>
>>

-- 
    73  Niece
Please  listen for  my   10m  CW  beacon   28.2235

20m  21.045    SLOW  CW  NET
SUNDAY NIGHT  AT  4PM  EST  or  20:00 utc
we use  netlogger.org

***************************************************************************
check out my  POPUP  *VERY SLOW  CW NET  on netlogger.org
<http://netlogger.org> *
*15 minutes  long*
*****************************************************************************

when hear YL on FREQ: they take precedence! Take YL QSO first

check out:  KA1ULN.BLOGSPOT.COM
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From crlobdell1 at gmail.com  Sat Oct 25 10:52:52 2025
From: crlobdell1 at gmail.com (Chris Lobdell)
Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2025 11:52:52 -0400
Subject: [bars] BARS W1HH NET CHECK INS FOR 10-22-2025
In-Reply-To: <558102030.148766.1761136704192@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <558102030.148766.1761136704192@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: <834d9dcb-2c3c-4875-93e9-15f3197a23c5@Spark>

Many thanks to the following 13 HAMS who checked in the NET this past Wednesday!

KC1TLE - John - N. Billerica
W2BPL - Chris - Bedford
AC1SN - Jay - Chelmsford
KC1UVA - Steven - Middleton
N1WRN - Doug - Reading *
WA1ESU - Fred - Newburyport
WB1HBU - Eric - West Lynn
W1LUS - Bruce - Tewksbury
W1LPG - Brendan - Bedford
KD1IVY - Mike - Arlington Heights
KD1TF - Gary - Andover
K1VK - Paul - Bedford
KA1ULN - Niece - Andover

*BARS President, NET Control Manager

Bedford wins with 3 Check Ins.

Until Next Week 73 & Gud DX!

• Chris Lobdell KC1IUK

On Oct 22, 2025 at 8:38 AM -0400, DOUGLAS BRUCE <douglas.bruce1 at comcast.net>, wrote:
> Welcome to this week’s edition of "NET NOTES" !!
>  We will be having our BARS weekly net tonight at 08:00 pm EDT or 00:00 UTC
>
>   Show your support!! Please join in the fun … all are most welcome.
>
>   Chris, KC1IUK, will be your host tonight for the festivities!
>
>   Here is the repeater info:
>
>   QTH: Westford
>
>  FREQ: 146.955  MHz
>
>  CALL: WB1GOF
>
>   Offset:  - 0.6 MHz
>
>   Tone:  CTCSS 74.4 Hz
>
>   NOTICE!! WE NEED VOLUNTEERS TO HELP OUT BY DOING THE NET ONCE EVERY FEW WEEKS!!!!  Please contact Doug, N1WRN,      for more info.
>
>   73,
>   Doug
>   N1WRN
>   Billerica Amateur Radio Society Net Manager
>
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From douglas.bruce1 at comcast.net  Wed Oct 29 08:19:52 2025
From: douglas.bruce1 at comcast.net (DOUGLAS BRUCE)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2025 09:19:52 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [bars] Net Notes W1HH Net Wednesday Night October 29, 2025
Message-ID: <44694736.382586.1761743992657@connect.xfinity.com>

Welcome to this week’s edition of "NET NOTES" !!  
 We will be having our BARS weekly net tonight at 08:00 pm EDT or 00:00 UTC

  Show your support!! Please join in the fun … all are most welcome.
 
  Chris, KC1IUK, will be your host tonight for the festivities! 

  Here is the repeater info:

  QTH: Westford

 FREQ: 146.955  MHz

 CALL: WB1GOF

  Offset:  - 0.6 MHz

  Tone:  CTCSS 74.4 Hz

  NOTICE!! WE NEED VOLUNTEERS TO HELP OUT BY DOING THE NET ONCE EVERY FEW WEEKS!!!!  Please contact Doug, N1WRN,      for more info.

  73,
  Doug
  N1WRN
  Billerica Amateur Radio Society Net Manager
 
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From douglas.bruce1 at comcast.net  Wed Oct 29 12:50:57 2025
From: douglas.bruce1 at comcast.net (DOUGLAS BRUCE)
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2025 13:50:57 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [bars] Net Noted W1HH Net Wednesday Night October 29, 2025 REVISED!
Message-ID: <819835770.390479.1761760257672@connect.xfinity.com>

Welcome to this week’s edition of "NET NOTES" !!  
 We will be having our BARS weekly net tonight at 08:00 pm EDT or 00:00 UTC

  Show your support!! Please join in the fun … all are most welcome.
 
  Dave, KC1TLF, will be your host tonight for the festivities! 

  Here is the repeater info:

  QTH: Westford

 FREQ: 146.955  MHz

 CALL: WB1GOF

  Offset:  - 0.6 MHz

  Tone:  CTCSS 74.4 Hz

  NOTICE!! WE NEED VOLUNTEERS TO HELP OUT BY DOING THE NET ONCE EVERY FEW WEEKS!!!!  Please contact Doug, N1WRN,      for more info.

  73,
  Doug
  N1WRN
  Billerica Amateur Radio Society Net Manager
 
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From dmarcucci at gmail.com  Thu Oct 30 09:55:09 2025
From: dmarcucci at gmail.com (David Marcucci)
Date: Thu, 30 Oct 2025 10:55:09 -0400
Subject: [bars] Net Noted W1HH Net Wednesday Night October 29,
 2025 REVISED!
In-Reply-To: <819835770.390479.1761760257672@connect.xfinity.com>
References: <819835770.390479.1761760257672@connect.xfinity.com>
Message-ID: 
 <CA+irocrGm24YpyDuJvcbTX-QjJkCaZmE7_aX58mqi8_q7b=VOw@mail.gmail.com>

*I want to thank the 11 stations below who checked in to last night's net,
especially for their thoughts on TUBE vs. SDRs based transceivers. It was a
great net!As a reminder, there will be NO NET NEXT WEEK, as November 5th
will be our monthly meeting.Please check our website, https://W1HH.org
<https://W1HH.org>, and watch this email list where the meeting
announcement will be posted.*

   1. *KC1TJD - Kevin, Westford*
   2. *KC1TLE - John, North Billerica*
   3. *W2BPL - Chris, Bedford*
   4. *WB1HBU - Eric, West Lynn*
   5. *KC1IUK - Chris, Tewksbury*
   6. *W1LPG - Brendan, Bedford*
   7. *W1LUS - Bruce, Tewksbury*
   8. *KA1ULN - Niece, Andover*
   9. *K1VK - Paul, Bedford*
   10. *W1KBE - Steve, Westford*
   11. *KC1TLF - Dave, Tyngsboro*

*73,*

*DaveKC1TLF*

On Wed, Oct 29, 2025 at 1:50 PM DOUGLAS BRUCE <douglas.bruce1 at comcast.net>
wrote:

> *Welcome to this week’s edition of "NET NOTES" !!  *
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> * We will be having our BARS weekly net tonight at 08:00 pm EDT or 00:00
> UTC  Show your support!! Please join in the fun … all are most welcome.*
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> *  Dave, KC1TLF, will be your host tonight for the festivities!   Here is
> the repeater info:  QTH: Westford FREQ: 146.955  MHz*
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> * CALL: WB1GOF  Offset:  - 0.6 MHz  Tone:  CTCSS 74.4 Hz  NOTICE!! WE NEED
> VOLUNTEERS TO HELP OUT BY DOING THE NET ONCE EVERY FEW WEEKS!!!!  Please
> contact Doug, N1WRN,      for more info.  73,  Doug*
> *  N1WRN*
> *  Billerica Amateur Radio Society Net Manager*
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