<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="auto">How about those who communicate in the open on HF and above who don't want to be part of a BARS zoom meeting recording log into the zoom meeting showing a different name with video and audio turned off. Problem solved. Lets not pontificate over a non problem.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="composer_signature" dir="auto"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757" dir="auto">Sent from my Samsung Galaxy , an AT&T LTE smartphone</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div align="left" dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Tom Walsh <k1tw@comcast.net> </div><div>Date: 7/7/21 11:33 AM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: 'Jim Idelson' <jim@k1ir.com>, 'William Smith' <w_smith@compusmiths.com> </div><div>Cc: 'BARS Reflector' <bars@w1hh.org> </div><div>Subject: Re: [bars] Bars Meeting Tomorrow Night </div><div><br></div></div><div class="WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">The only problem I see with recording is if something occurred during a meeting that shouldn’t have been recorded. </p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">And Zoom allows BARS to delete recordings anytime we wish. Such as after a period when folks who couldn’t attend live have the chance to watch the meeting. </p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Most privacy concerns are probably about what data is collected on participants by advertisers and internet companies. That shouldn’t be affected by the mere fact of a recording as that data is available just from your live attendance. </p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">I too hope we record tonight’s meeting. Great speaker!</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><p class="MsoNormal">Tom K1TW</p><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Jim Idelson <jim@k1ir.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 7, 2021 11:14 AM<br><b>To:</b> William Smith <w_smith@compusmiths.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Thomas Walsh <k1tw@comcast.net>; BARS Reflector <bars@w1hh.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bars] Bars Meeting Tomorrow Night</p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt" class="MsoNormal">The benefits of allowing people to watch later far outweigh any risks. You can decide how broadly you want to share access to the recorded content.</p><div><p class="MsoNormal">73 Jim K1IR</p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jul 7, 2021, 7:44 AM William Smith <<a href="mailto:w_smith@compusmiths.com">w_smith@compusmiths.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal">I don't think there's any one specific person who is concerned, it feels like the Board is concerned that there might be, and in today's world of legitimate privacy concerns, the easy solution is not to record the meetings.</p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Since these recordings may live forever and gain a wide audience, I'd probably want a prominent warning, so I could use a Zoom background that would hide my shack. But then I should sanitize QRZ and Facebook and everything else I do online. #RatHole</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">73, Willie N1JBJ</p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br><br></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Jul 7, 2021, at 7:37 AM, Jim Idelson <<a href="mailto:jim@k1ir.com">jim@k1ir.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p style="margin-bottom:12.0pt" class="MsoNormal">I just asked if I could watch a recording of tonight's presentation later since I have another commitment. Management has decided not to record due to privacy concerns. Who's concerned?</p><div><p class="MsoNormal">73 Jim K1IR</p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jul 7, 2021, 7:11 AM William Smith <<a href="mailto:w_smith@compusmiths.com">w_smith@compusmiths.com</a>> wrote:</p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I suspect the new normal is going to be a blending of all those options. I've been enjoying the 'Breakfast Zoom' meetings, but I'm unlikely to get up early enough to get Presentable, drive 1/2 hour each way, just to have almost the same experience (with my Good Friend Google on the tiny screen instead of one of my monitors). But that's me. But then I _like_ discussing the advantages of CW while videoconferencing. 8*)</p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Oh, wait, I just checked out their breakfast menu. Eggs Benedict. Maybe I'll rethink this. 8*)</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">73, Willie N1JBJ</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Jul 6, 2021, at 11:38 PM, Thomas Walsh <<a href="mailto:k1tw@comcast.net">k1tw@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</p></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">Why the hurry? </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">If we learned anything it’s that zoom meetings Zoom meetings work great. No traffic to contend with. Besides, the Church is always hot in summer as no A/c. </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">We get more member interaction with the speaker and each other over zoom. We get greater attendance. Members from VT, NC and other states can participate. Members from other clubs also often join also. </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"> </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">The Board should thoroughly discuss. One idea might be to plan in person member gatherings around specific events like Breakfasts, Field Day, kit builds, classes, and B-B-Q’s and continue seeking out great speakers for monthly zoom meetings. Just some ideas. </span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><br><br></span></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><p style="margin-bottom:13.5pt" class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">On Jul 6, 2021, at 6:34 PM, Gary's Ice Cream <<a href="mailto:gary@garysicecream.com">gary@garysicecream.com</a>> wrote:</span></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start;word-spacing:0px"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"></span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"></span></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">When are we going back to in person meetings – it is time.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Gary F.</p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Chelmsford Creamery, Inc. Chelmsford, MA <a href="http://chelmsfordcreamery.com/">chelmsfordcreamery.com</a></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Ice Cream College – classes in Massachusetts and Florida <a href="http://icecreamcollege.com/">icecreamcollege.com</a></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> bars <<a href="mailto:bars-bounces@w1hh.org">bars-bounces@w1hh.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruce Anderson<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 6, 2021 4:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bars@w1hh.org">bars@w1hh.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [bars] Bars Meeting Tomorrow Night</p></div></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">This is your link to the BARS Monthly ZOOM meeting </span></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Topic: “Programs Helping Hams to Develop New Skills and Get On The Air” By <span style="color:black;background:white"> Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC </span></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Time: Jul 7, 2021 07:00 PM EDST</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Join Zoom Meeting</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt"><a href="https://us02web.zoom.us/j/82244842441?pwd=S3N6ZEJRZXZQejhwVE5HK3VnSFAxZz09">https://us02web.zoom.us/j/82244842441?pwd=S3N6ZEJRZXZQejhwVE5HK3VnSFAxZz09</a></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Meeting ID: 822 4484 2441</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Passcode: 177430</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt"> </span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">Bruce</span></p></div></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt">W1LUS</span></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:18.0pt"> </span></p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">_______________________________________________<br>bars mailing list<br><a href="mailto:bars@w1hh.org">bars@w1hh.org</a><br><a href="http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org">http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org</a></span></p></div></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">_______________________________________________<br>bars mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:bars@w1hh.org"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">bars@w1hh.org</span></a><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif"><br></span><a href="http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif">http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org</span></a></p></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div><p class="MsoNormal">_______________________________________________<br>bars mailing list<br><a href="mailto:bars@w1hh.org">bars@w1hh.org</a><br><a href="http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org">http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org</a></p></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><p class="MsoNormal"> </p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></body></html>