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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink="#954F72" style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I’m only chiming in because my employer recently banned all recording of online meetings… The liability issues are extensive and fuzzy and I’m no lawyer...</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The mindset that we’re being told we should have is that anyone outside the org can potentially obtain recorded content and do malicious things with any info said by any of the participants… So if someone accidently mentioned their address, phone number, any personally identifiable info, who is doing what business with whom, personal info of loved ones, etc… this info can potentially be used to do bad things.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There is prob not much liability on the club… especially since there are no substantial assets to be had… but that doesn’t stop someone from suing participants or anyone with assets… Anyone can sue anyone about anything… and obviously that happens all the time these days.</p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>That said… I’ll be a happy participant in the zoom meeting, but prob won’t say much <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>😊</span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><b>From: </b><a href="mailto:k1tw@comcast.net">Tom Walsh</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, July 7, 2021 11:33 AM<br><b>To: </b><a href="mailto:jim@k1ir.com">Jim Idelson</a>; <a href="mailto:w_smith@compusmiths.com">William Smith</a><br><b>Cc: </b><a href="mailto:bars@w1hh.org">BARS Reflector</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [bars] Bars Meeting Tomorrow Night</p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The only problem I see with recording is if something occurred during a meeting that shouldn’t have been recorded. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>And Zoom allows BARS to delete recordings anytime we wish. Such as after a period when folks who couldn’t attend live have the chance to watch the meeting. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Most privacy concerns are probably about what data is collected on participants by advertisers and internet companies. That shouldn’t be affected by the mere fact of a recording as that data is available just from your live attendance. <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I too hope we record tonight’s meeting. Great speaker!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Tom K1TW<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Jim Idelson <jim@k1ir.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, July 7, 2021 11:14 AM<br><b>To:</b> William Smith <w_smith@compusmiths.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Thomas Walsh <k1tw@comcast.net>; BARS Reflector <bars@w1hh.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [bars] Bars Meeting Tomorrow Night<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>The benefits of allowing people to watch later far outweigh any risks. You can decide how broadly you want to share access to the recorded content.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>73 Jim K1IR<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Wed, Jul 7, 2021, 7:44 AM William Smith <<a href="mailto:w_smith@compusmiths.com">w_smith@compusmiths.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'>I don't think there's any one specific person who is concerned, it feels like the Board is concerned that there might be, and in today's world of legitimate privacy concerns, the easy solution is not to record the meetings.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'>Since these recordings may live forever and gain a wide audience, I'd probably want a prominent warning, so I could use a Zoom background that would hide my shack. But then I should sanitize QRZ and Facebook and everything else I do online. #RatHole<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:4.8pt'>73, Willie N1JBJ<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.8pt'>On Jul 7, 2021, at 7:37 AM, Jim Idelson <<a href="mailto:jim@k1ir.com">jim@k1ir.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:40.8pt'>I just asked if I could watch a recording of tonight's presentation later since I have another commitment. Management has decided not to record due to privacy concerns. Who's concerned?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.8pt'>73 Jim K1IR<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:40.8pt'>On Wed, Jul 7, 2021, 7:11 AM William Smith <<a href="mailto:w_smith@compusmiths.com">w_smith@compusmiths.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:45.6pt'>I suspect the new normal is going to be a blending of all those options. I've been enjoying the 'Breakfast Zoom' meetings, but I'm unlikely to get up early enough to get Presentable, drive 1/2 hour each way, just to have almost the same experience (with my Good Friend Google on the tiny screen instead of one of my monitors). But that's me. But then I _like_ discussing the advantages of CW while videoconferencing. 8*)<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:45.6pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:45.6pt'>Oh, wait, I just checked out their breakfast menu. Eggs Benedict. Maybe I'll rethink this. 8*)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:45.6pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:45.6pt'>73, Willie N1JBJ<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:45.6pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:81.6pt'>On Jul 6, 2021, at 11:38 PM, Thomas Walsh <<a href="mailto:k1tw@comcast.net">k1tw@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:81.6pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:81.6pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Why the hurry? </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:81.6pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:81.6pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>If we learned anything it’s that zoom meetings Zoom meetings work great. No traffic to contend with. Besides, the Church is always hot in summer as no A/c. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:81.6pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:81.6pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>We get more member interaction with the speaker and each other over zoom. We get greater attendance. Members from VT, NC and other states can participate. Members from other clubs also often join also. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:81.6pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:81.6pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>The Board should thoroughly discuss. One idea might be to plan in person member gatherings around specific events like Breakfasts, Field Day, kit builds, classes, and B-B-Q’s and continue seeking out great speakers for monthly zoom meetings. Just some ideas. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:81.6pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:13.5pt;margin-left:117.6pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>On Jul 6, 2021, at 6:34 PM, Gary's Ice Cream <<a href="mailto:gary@garysicecream.com">gary@garysicecream.com</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'></span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'>When are we going back to in person meetings – it is time.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'>Gary F.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'>Chelmsford Creamery, Inc. Chelmsford, MA <a href="http://chelmsfordcreamery.com/">chelmsfordcreamery.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'>Ice Cream College – classes in Massachusetts and Florida <a href="http://icecreamcollege.com/">icecreamcollege.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'><b>From:</b> bars <<a href="mailto:bars-bounces@w1hh.org">bars-bounces@w1hh.org</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruce Anderson<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July 6, 2021 4:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:bars@w1hh.org">bars@w1hh.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [bars] Bars Meeting Tomorrow Night<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'><span style='font-size:18.0pt'>This is your link to the BARS Monthly ZOOM meeting </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'><span style='font-size:18.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'><span style='font-size:18.0pt'>Topic: “Programs Helping Hams to Develop New Skills and Get On The Air” By <span style='color:black;background:white'> Fred Kemmerer, AB1OC </span></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'><span style='font-size:18.0pt'>Time: Jul 7, 2021 07:00 PM EDST</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'><span style='font-size:18.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'><span style='font-size:18.0pt'>Join Zoom Meeting</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'><span style='font-size:18.0pt'><a href="https://us02web.zoom.us/j/82244842441?pwd=S3N6ZEJRZXZQejhwVE5HK3VnSFAxZz09">https://us02web.zoom.us/j/82244842441?pwd=S3N6ZEJRZXZQejhwVE5HK3VnSFAxZz09</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'><span style='font-size:18.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'><span style='font-size:18.0pt'>Meeting ID: 822 4484 2441</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'><span style='font-size:18.0pt'>Passcode: 177430</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'><span style='font-size:18.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'><span style='font-size:18.0pt'>Bruce</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'><span style='font-size:18.0pt'>W1LUS</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'><span style='font-size:18.0pt'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:117.6pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>_______________________________________________<br>bars mailing list<br><a href="mailto:bars@w1hh.org">bars@w1hh.org</a><br><a href="http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org">http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:81.6pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>_______________________________________________<br>bars mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:bars@w1hh.org"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>bars@w1hh.org</span></a><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br></span><a href="http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org"><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:45.6pt'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:45.6pt'>_______________________________________________<br>bars mailing list<br><a href="mailto:bars@w1hh.org">bars@w1hh.org</a><br><a href="http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org">http://mail.w1hh.org/mailman/listinfo/bars_w1hh.org</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></body></html>