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<font face="Verdana">I attribute my contact experience to a
combination of # of hams in a country and propagation. There are
times on 15m FT8, for example, where I can decode 24+ JA stations
in a single period with only 2 or 3 non JAs. However the raw
number of Slovenian stations, despite a much easier path to the
EU, is rather low due to a much smaller population (6,500 in
2000).<br>
<br>
If you arrange that same listing by # of licensed hams the results
are quite different:<br>
<br>
</font><font face="Verdana"><font face="Verdana">The Top Ten by # of
licensed hams<br>
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<td valign="top"><font face="Verdana">10: Russia</font><br>
</td>
<td valign="top">38,000<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">9: South Korea<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">42,632<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">8: Spain<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">58,700<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">7: Germany<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">63,070<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">6: Canada<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">70,198<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">5: United Kingdom<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">75,660<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">4:Thailand<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">101,763<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">3: China<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">150,000<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">2: Japan<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">381,899<br>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td valign="top">1: US<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">779,545<br>
</td>
</tr>
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<font face="Verdana"><font face="Verdana"><br>
Now, if you add propagation to the equation, my experience makes
more sense. Italy is #13 with 30,000 reported hams but this
data is quite old, 1993, so I suspect the current number is
rather different. Another outlier, in my experience, is China.
I have many contacts in Japan but only a small handful into
China. The data from Russia is also quite old, 1993. I see
tons of Russian stations on any given day.<br>
<br>
I have not taken a stats class, but I can whip up a mean
spreadsheet! ;-)<br>
<br>
73,<br>
<br>
T.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05-Sep-23 11:11, Nancy Araway wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I find this metric quite
interesting for purposes of the ARRL or FEMA, who have
embedded interest in increasing the percent of the population
with RF communications capabilities. But it strikes me that
it's a really broad leap to compare how many contacts you make
within a given population to the license density within that
population <span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;
font-size: 16px;">for the purpose of understanding why you
get more Q's from Germany, Spain and Italy</span></span>.
While license density matters, it is only one factor in that
equation, and like Slovenia, can be entirely over ridden when
multiplied by the population of the country.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I think the dominant factors
would be the percent of global hams in the country (country
licenses/global licensees) times a geo-political factor that
measures how active hams are in each country (think Germany
vs. Korea), times a location dependent propagation factor. </div>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Sorry, sometimes I overthink
these things. I like Statistics.....</div>
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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">Nan</div>
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<div> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 10:37:24 AM EDT, Tim
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<div> <font face="Verdana">I was ruminating the other day
about the relative percentage of hams in various
countries. I seem to work A LOT of Italians,
Spaniards and Germans. So a quick Google search led
me to Wikipedia. It has a listing of hams by country
( <a href="https://bit.ly/3sI2aeR"
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The Top Ten by % of Population<br>
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<td valign="top"><font face="Verdana">10: United
Kingdom: </font></td>
<td valign="top"><font face="Verdana">0.114</font></td>
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<td valign="top"><font face="Verdana">9: New
Zealand:</font></td>
<td valign="top">0.120<br>
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</tr>
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<td valign="top">8: Norway: (seriously?)<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">0.125<br>
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</tr>
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<td valign="top">7: Spain:<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">0.127<br>
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</tr>
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<td valign="top">6: Thailand:<br>
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<td valign="top">0.147<br>
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<td valign="top">5: Denmark<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">0.152<br>
</td>
</tr>
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<td valign="top">4: Canada:<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">0.187<br>
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</tr>
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<td valign="top">3: US:<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">0.233<br>
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<td valign="top">2: Japan:<br>
</td>
<td valign="top">0.304<br>
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</tr>
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<td valign="top">1: Slovenia:<br>
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<td valign="top">0.317<br>
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Germany was 15 at 0.073% and Italy 21 at 0.049%.<br>
<br>
Slovenia was a bit of a surprise but it is a small
country so a relatively small population of hams
(6,500 as of 2000) can tip the scale pretty easily.
Same with Norway with 6,818 hams as of 2022. US had
almost 780,000 as of 2021.<br>
<br>
So we hams are a relative rarity, population wise -
approx. 1 in 500 in the US. We are LEET! ( <a
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73,<br>
<br>
T.<br>
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