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<font face="Verdana">Upon reflection on my vast experience of 14.5
months of being on the air (hihi) I'm in general agreement with
you.<br>
<br>
I've yet to meet a non-US ham so I've had no opportunity to
discuss the relative interest groups across boundaries. My very
limited air-time would naturally put me in contact with those that
are interested in DX/contesting rather than EMCOM, traffic
handling, or VHF for that matter.<br>
<br>
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.<br>
<br>
T.<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Here is my take on this, just an opinion,
others may differ . . . I realize this may stir the pot but so
be it . . . I been on HF since 1970 . . .<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">A lot of the
EU hams are avid DXers and / or contesters. It could be a
“cultural” thing having to do with competitiveness. At
least that is the impression I got when I met many of them
in person at the WARC 2014 wrap-up celebration. Think sports
– whether it be EU/WW football, EU basketball players or
hockey players coming to the states, etc. The EU/WW hams
call their hobby “RadioSport”. So you will hear them on the
HF bands and they are active Ops. <o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Many of the
EU hams do not have space or funding for a BIG station, so
how to they get the BIG signals you may hear? There are a
lot more HF DX / contest clubs over there. They pool their
resources and build world-class club stations at prime
locations. There are also DX/contest clubs in South America.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">I work with
a lot of engineers overseas for my day job, and find them to
be very technically competent.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">A lot of
stateside hams are just into 2 meter/440 vs. HF, to keep in
touch will local friends. Nothing wrong with that. It’s a
good social support network. I myself have had folks ping
me to see if I was “OK” after long periods of inactivity.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Some are
first responder types (thank you for your service) that are
primarily into EMCOMM, CERT, ARES/RACES. They may be to
busy training to play on HF.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Others are
NTS traffic handlers. Even though NTS is not as “busy” as
is once was, they are keeping the system active should it
ever be needed.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Others are
“preppers” – no explanation needed.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">And some are
“closet hams”, those that get their licenses but never get
on the air. Could have gotten their ticket just to please a
family member get to them off their back.<o:p></o:p></li>
<li class="MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1">Or maybe a
new ham started listening on some “haters” frequencies on 20
40 or 75 meters and got turned off by that (and sadly so did
the radio). Don’t get me started on that.<o:p></o:p></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">But I digress . . . and I welcome other
points of view, agree or disagree or neutral<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Art<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">NF1A<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> bars
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bars-bounces@w1hh.org"><bars-bounces@w1hh.org></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tim
KC1RET<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, September 5, 2023 10:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> w1hh <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bars@w1hh.org"><bars@w1hh.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [bars] Hams as % of population<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">I was
ruminating the other day about the relative percentage of
hams in various countries. I seem to work A LOT of
Italians, Spaniards and Germans. So a quick Google search
led me to Wikipedia. It has a listing of hams by country (
<a href="https://bit.ly/3sI2aeR" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://bit.ly/3sI2aeR</a>
).<br>
<br>
The Top Ten by % of Population</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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United Kingdom: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">0.114</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">9:
New Zealand:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">7: Spain:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">0.127<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">6: Thailand:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">0.147<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">0.233<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2: Japan:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">0.304<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">1: Slovenia:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><br>
Germany was 15 at 0.073% and Italy 21 at 0.049%.<br>
<br>
Slovenia was a bit of a surprise but it is a small country
so a relatively small population of hams (6,500 as of 2000)
can tip the scale pretty easily. Same with Norway with
6,818 hams as of 2022. US had almost 780,000 as of 2021.<br>
<br>
So we hams are a relative rarity, population wise - approx.
1 in 500 in the US. We are LEET! ( <a
href="https://bit.ly/45DwgyC" moz-do-not-send="true"
class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://bit.ly/45DwgyC</a> )<br>
<br>
73,<br>
<br>
T.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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