<div dir="ltr"><div>" Two years out of boot with no degree and I was hired as a Member of the Engineering Staff."</div><div><br></div><div>Correction, two years out of the end of my tour in 1982. I was hired in 1984, at the end of Reagan's term.</div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><br><div>73,<div>K1CPR</div><div>Juan</div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 30, 2024 at 11:15 PM Juan Jiménez <<a href="mailto:k1cpr@bd5.com">k1cpr@bd5.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Small world. I arrived at Millington just after New Year's 1979. Probably missed you as you were packing up. I finished Marine boot in December 78, went home to Puerto Rico for a couple of weeks, totally confused at all the women now hitting on me whom I thought just three months earlier would not have cared if I existed. That was weird, but fun. 😜</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Remember the bar.... err... dive just to the road from the base entrance run by that tall, blonde, leggy woman who looked like she'd been around the planet a few times, let alone the block? I was told that a few weeks after I left the joint was subjected to the "blue jean liberty" treatment after some sailors got beat up by some bikers. Darn near razed to the ground. I would have loved to see that. Most people I know think blue jean liberty is a myth.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I have an Iranian brother in law who came here as a kid after the Shah was deposed. Amazing engineer, graduated from Cornell, great husband and father. I told him the story, and he confirmed those kids at Millington were the children of rich or influential people who were given the privilege of coming to the US to learn how to maintain the F-14A's we sold them. I would be willing to wager some of them are now running the shops somehow keeping them airworthy with the help of the Russians and other friendly countries.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Ironically, my first defense contractor job was with Hughes Aircraft CO's radar systems group, working on the 2nd generation radar upgrade for the F-14. Two years out of boot with no degree and I was hired as a Member of the Engineering Staff.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">One of my colleagues at Raytheon turns out to have also worked on that program at the same time. He stayed there, I bounced all over the planet. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">The world is tiny. Smaller than most people imagine. 😄</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">73,</div><div dir="auto">Juan</div><div dir="auto">K1CPR</div><div dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 30, 2024, 20:12 Richard Heckbert <<a href="mailto:richard.heckbert@gmail.com" target="_blank">richard.heckbert@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">I also spent time learning soldering in lovely Millington. I was a little before you (Feb 78 – Dec 78). I can attest to the quality of soldering taught there. I ended up
working repairing black boxes (actually, mostly gray!) in the fleet and we only had 1 tech qualified/permitted to solder aircraft equipment in the whole workcenter so I got tagged to go to soldering school and become his backup. I ended up teaching electronics
at a local trade school for a few years after getting out of the Navy and for some reason I had the least dropout rate (and trade schools are all about fannies in seats) so I taught the intro to electronics module most classes (lather, rinse, repeat). One
of the skills taught in intro was soldering. Best way to learn a skill is to teach it!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">You mention hams were prohibited from using what is now the AM broadcast band. Weren’t hams thrown completely off the air shortly after 1938? I thought I read WW II put a
complete kibosh on ham radio. Everything prewar was different including call letter format. From what I’ve read, ham radio really took off post-war with a lot of surplus radio equipment and a lot of ex-military trained on radio equipment. I’m amazed they
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<b>Date: </b>Monday, December 30, 2024 at 6:48 PM<br>
<b>To: </b>w1hh <<a href="mailto:bars@w1hh.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">bars@w1hh.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>[bars] Fwd: Radio Book<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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Date: Mon, Dec 30, 2024, 16:36<br>
Subject: Re: [bars] Radio Book<br>
To: Andy Wallace <<a href="mailto:soldersmoke01@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">soldersmoke01@gmail.com</a>><u></u><u></u></p>
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officer candidates. Those kids took a minimum of two weeks to get through the initial one day Basic Aviation Introduction. One of them crashed an RV on a clear sunny day with no traffic. Told the officers the autopilot didn't work. There's your sign...
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might need supports 66 feet apart to operate 40m….so maybe 33’ on 20m might be wiser. <u></u><u></u></p>
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