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You can create an email address simply for the purpose of official communication. </div>
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I agree that it should be possible to renew by postal mail though. That assumes that the post office will still exist.</div>
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 6, 2025 10:02 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> KEN CARUSO <wo1n@comcast.net>; bars@w1hh.org <bars@w1hh.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [bars] Its getting too hard to renew licenses, and i have a new radio hobbies</font>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><font size="4">If I cant renew by mail then I wont be able to renew my license in a few years, darn!</font></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><font size="4">I dont do the Inter-web any more.</font></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><font size="4">Its too freaking dangerous!</font></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><font size="4">I ran out of user names and passwords years ago and dont have any more.</font></p>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><font size="4">I have a new job and I get to drive cars AND talk on a business walki-talkie at the same time.</font></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><font size="4">I am working in Movies, as a Background-Extra and a Precision car driver.</font></p>
<p class="x_MsoNormal"><font size="4">I have been in 20 movies in the last 4 years.<br>
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<p class="x_MsoNormal"><font size="4">If you watch the movie Absolution, there is a bar room fight scene in the beginning.</font></p>
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<div class="x_moz-cite-prefix">On 9/5/2025 1:27 PM, KEN CARUSO via bars wrote:<br>
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<span style="font-family:helvetica; font-size:12pt">I recently had to do this. It was not easy. You are dealing with two different database maintained by the US Gummit and they clearly are running on circa 1990's IBM AS400's or something similar.
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<div data-subtree="aimfl" style="display:contents">To renew your </div>
<span style="font-family:helvetica; font-size:12pt"><span style="font-family:helvetica; font-size:12pt"><a class="x_GI370e" href="https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=amateur+radio+license&mstk=AUtExfBxoRZY6hQs4hC6LHTobdMOFqFrcQgyd7eYxkAHMG96yWWKlz3A_xW1gP4vxuwXUy9mIyqSu0shGCi3rTthJL3D27n0cJ7-TABHR66TFb91q8EmGt0LOqGhz4THaOmrhPLtELOK6QRC13Rq7fXu8ZxB41tus3wsgkSaTGjYJHRnhkc&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwi0v4uOkcKPAxXvGFkFHWiNMKcQgK4QegQIAhAB" data-hveid="CAIQAQ" data-ved="2ahUKEwi0v4uOkcKPAxXvGFkFHWiNMKcQgK4QegQIAhAB" data-wiz-rootname="sQeGi">amateur
radio license</a>, you must log in to the <a class="x_GI370e" href="https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=FCC+Universal+Licensing+System+%28ULS%29&mstk=AUtExfBxoRZY6hQs4hC6LHTobdMOFqFrcQgyd7eYxkAHMG96yWWKlz3A_xW1gP4vxuwXUy9mIyqSu0shGCi3rTthJL3D27n0cJ7-TABHR66TFb91q8EmGt0LOqGhz4THaOmrhPLtELOK6QRC13Rq7fXu8ZxB41tus3wsgkSaTGjYJHRnhkc&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwi0v4uOkcKPAxXvGFkFHWiNMKcQgK4QegQIAhAD" data-hveid="CAIQAw" data-ved="2ahUKEwi0v4uOkcKPAxXvGFkFHWiNMKcQgK4QegQIAhAD" data-wiz-rootname="sQeGi">
FCC Universal Licensing System (ULS)</a> using your <a class="x_GI370e" href="https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=FCC+Registration+Number+%28FRN%29&mstk=AUtExfBxoRZY6hQs4hC6LHTobdMOFqFrcQgyd7eYxkAHMG96yWWKlz3A_xW1gP4vxuwXUy9mIyqSu0shGCi3rTthJL3D27n0cJ7-TABHR66TFb91q8EmGt0LOqGhz4THaOmrhPLtELOK6QRC13Rq7fXu8ZxB41tus3wsgkSaTGjYJHRnhkc&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwi0v4uOkcKPAxXvGFkFHWiNMKcQgK4QegQIAhAE" data-hveid="CAIQBA" data-ved="2ahUKEwi0v4uOkcKPAxXvGFkFHWiNMKcQgK4QegQIAhAE" data-wiz-rootname="sQeGi">
FCC Registration Number (FRN)</a> and password, select "Renew Licenses," and follow the prompts to submit your application and pay the $35 fee through the
<a class="x_GI370e" href="https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=CORES+system&mstk=AUtExfBxoRZY6hQs4hC6LHTobdMOFqFrcQgyd7eYxkAHMG96yWWKlz3A_xW1gP4vxuwXUy9mIyqSu0shGCi3rTthJL3D27n0cJ7-TABHR66TFb91q8EmGt0LOqGhz4THaOmrhPLtELOK6QRC13Rq7fXu8ZxB41tus3wsgkSaTGjYJHRnhkc&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwi0v4uOkcKPAxXvGFkFHWiNMKcQgK4QegQIAhAF" data-hveid="CAIQBQ" data-ved="2ahUKEwi0v4uOkcKPAxXvGFkFHWiNMKcQgK4QegQIAhAF" data-wiz-rootname="sQeGi">
CORES system</a>. You can renew your license up to two years after it expires, but you cannot transmit during the grace period.<span class="" data-wiz-rootname="ohfaMd"><span class="x_vKEkVd" data-animation-atomic=""> </span></span></span></span>
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<li data-processed="true" data-hveid="CAQQAA"><span class="x_T286Pc" data-processed="true"><strong class="x_Yjhzub" data-processed="true">Log in to the FCC ULS:</strong> Go to the
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FCC Universal Licensing System (ULS)</a> website and log in with your FCC Registration Number (FRN) and password.</span></li><li data-processed="true" data-hveid="CAQQAg"><span class="x_T286Pc" data-processed="true"><strong class="x_Yjhzub" data-processed="true">Navigate to "My Licenses":</strong> From the License Manager page, select the "My Licenses" link from the left-hand navigation
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<li data-hveid="CAQQAw"><span class="x_T286Pc"><strong class="x_Yjhzub">Initiate the Renewal:</strong> On the "My Licenses" page, select the "Renew Licenses" link.</span></li></ul>
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<li data-hveid="CAQQBA"><span class="x_T286Pc"><strong class="x_Yjhzub">Select License(s):</strong> On the "Select Licenses" page, choose the license(s) you want to renew by clicking the "Add" button.</span></li></ul>
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<li data-hveid="CAQQBQ"><span class="x_T286Pc"><strong class="x_Yjhzub">Complete the Application:</strong> Follow the on-screen prompts to update any necessary information and answer the required questions, including the felony question.</span></li></ul>
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<li data-hveid="CAQQBg"><span class="x_T286Pc"><strong class="x_Yjhzub">Pay the Renewal Fee:</strong> Submit the application and then pay the $35 renewal fee through the FCC's CORES (Commission Registration System).</span></li></ul>
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<li data-hveid="CAQQBw"><span class="x_T286Pc"><strong class="x_Yjhzub">Confirmation:</strong> You will receive a confirmation email, and your license status will be updated in the ULS system.</span><span class="" data-wiz-rootname="ohfaMd"><span class="x_vKEkVd" data-animation-atomic=""> </span></span></li></ul>
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<li><span class="x_ymCSIb" data-hveid="CAYQAA"><span class="x_dsyJjd"><span class="x_T286Pc">Renewal Window:</span></span> You can start the renewal process as early as 90 days before your license expires.<span class="" data-wiz-rootname="ohfaMd"><span class="x_vKEkVd" data-animation-atomic=""> </span></span></span></li></ul>
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<li> </li><li><span class="x_ymCSIb" data-hveid="CAYQAg"><span class="x_dsyJjd"><span class="x_T286Pc">Grace Period:</span></span> Your license can be renewed for up to two years after its expiration date.<span class="" data-wiz-rootname="ohfaMd"><span class="x_vKEkVd" data-animation-atomic=""> </span></span></span></li></ul>
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<li> </li><li><span class="x_ymCSIb" data-hveid="CAYQBA"><span class="x_dsyJjd"><span class="x_T286Pc"><a class="x_GI370e" href="https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=ARRL&mstk=AUtExfBxoRZY6hQs4hC6LHTobdMOFqFrcQgyd7eYxkAHMG96yWWKlz3A_xW1gP4vxuwXUy9mIyqSu0shGCi3rTthJL3D27n0cJ7-TABHR66TFb91q8EmGt0LOqGhz4THaOmrhPLtELOK6QRC13Rq7fXu8ZxB41tus3wsgkSaTGjYJHRnhkc&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwi0v4uOkcKPAxXvGFkFHWiNMKcQgK4QegQIBhAF" data-hveid="CAYQBQ" data-ved="2ahUKEwi0v4uOkcKPAxXvGFkFHWiNMKcQgK4QegQIBhAF" data-wiz-rootname="sQeGi">ARRL</a>
Assistance:</span></span> The <a class="x_GI370e" href="https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=American+Radio+Relay+League&mstk=AUtExfBxoRZY6hQs4hC6LHTobdMOFqFrcQgyd7eYxkAHMG96yWWKlz3A_xW1gP4vxuwXUy9mIyqSu0shGCi3rTthJL3D27n0cJ7-TABHR66TFb91q8EmGt0LOqGhz4THaOmrhPLtELOK6QRC13Rq7fXu8ZxB41tus3wsgkSaTGjYJHRnhkc&csui=3&ved=2ahUKEwi0v4uOkcKPAxXvGFkFHWiNMKcQgK4QegQIBhAG" data-hveid="CAYQBg" data-ved="2ahUKEwi0v4uOkcKPAxXvGFkFHWiNMKcQgK4QegQIBhAG" data-wiz-rootname="sQeGi">
American Radio Relay League</a> (ARRL) offers services to help members with the renewal process.<span class="" data-wiz-rootname="ohfaMd"><span class="x_vKEkVd" data-animation-atomic=""> </span></span></span></li></ul>
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<li> </li><li><span class="x_ymCSIb" data-hveid="CAYQCA"><span class="x_dsyJjd"><span class="x_T286Pc">Expired License (More Than 2 Years):</span></span> If your license has been expired for more than two years, you must take the Technician class exam again to regain
your license, even if it's expired.<span class="" data-wiz-rootname="ohfaMd"><span class="x_vKEkVd" data-animation-atomic=""> </span></span></span></li></ul>
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<span style="font-family:helvetica; font-size:12pt">Look at it as an adventure and you will be OK ;-)</span>
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<div>On 09/05/2025 1:04 PM EDT Marla Wallace via bars <a class="x_moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:bars@w1hh.org">
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<span style="font-family:helvetica; font-size:12pt">I need to renew my license soon. It expires in February of 2026. At the same time (I hope!), I need to change their records to match my present legal name. Can anybody explain what I need to do to accomplish
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