[bars] Hams as % of population
Tim KC1RET
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Tue Sep 5 18:17:11 EDT 2023
I think the answer is 42.
;-)
The breadth and depth of knowledge within our little group never ceases
to amaze.
73,
T.
On 05-Sep-23 18:00, Adam Smith wrote:
> I think you're starting to build something like a "Drake Equation"
> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drake_equation) for hams.
>
> I would sketch out:
> L = country's population of licensed amateurs
> A = percentage currently active
> H = percentage active on HF
> M = percentage active on the mode/band you're using
> P = factor for propagation
> T = compatibility of timezones
> etc
> Where the "presence level" you're feeling in on-air contact rates
> would be something like P = L x A x H x M x P x T x ...
>
> Another way to factor in to it would be aspects like relative
> prosperity (to buy nice equipment), rate of home/land ownership (to
> put up substantial antennas), or social factors like the prevalence of
> clubs (perhaps supporting better facilities, or encouraging
> participation) or the likelihood to organize contests, field days,
> etc. These are probably "orthogonal" to and would cut across the
> "activity level" factors on the list above.
>
> My gut feeling is that Italy, Spain, and Germany probably are in a
> sweet spot of population, wealth, and geography/propagation related to
> US-east-coast hams. I would assume that Japanese contacts are a
> bigger percentage of a US-west-coast ham's experience.
>
> Interesting question to explore!
> Adam KC1HSE
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2023 at 2:06 PM Tom Walsh <k1tw at comcast.net> wrote:
>
> The IARU at one time kept an updated list of hams worldwide which
> is probably no easy task. I am not sure that is available presently.
>
> Tom K1TW
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> *From:* bars <bars-bounces at w1hh.org> *On Behalf Of *Kristie
> Connolly via bars
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> *Subject:* Re: [bars] Hams as % of population
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> https://www.city-data.com/aradio/lic-Bedford-Massachusetts.html
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> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 12:06 PM, Kristie Connolly via bars
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> Hi Tim,
>
> I went through and counted only the ones that hadn’t expired yet.
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> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 11:34 AM, Tim KC1RET
> <kc1ret.radio at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Active or licensed? Those numbers, sadly, can be quite
> different.
>
> 73,
>
> T.
>
> On 05-Sep-23 11:17, Kristie Connolly wrote:
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> That’s so cool. I have been looking for that information.
> I seem to work Brazil a fair amount. It has mostly been
> the countries that you listed though.
>
> I just went through a website that has over 60 active Ham
> radio operators in Bedford, MA.
>
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> On Tuesday, September 5, 2023, 10:37 AM, Tim KC1RET
> <kc1ret.radio at gmail.com> <mailto:kc1ret.radio at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> I was ruminating the other day about the relative
> percentage of hams in various countries. I seem to
> work A LOT of Italians, Spaniards and Germans. So a
> quick Google search led me to Wikipedia. It has a
> listing of hams by country ( https://bit.ly/3sI2aeR ).
>
> The Top Ten by % of Population
>
> 10: United Kingdom:
>
>
>
> 0.114
>
> 9: New Zealand:
>
>
>
> 0.120
>
> 8: Norway: (seriously?)
>
>
>
> 0.125
>
> 7: Spain:
>
>
>
> 0.127
>
> 6: Thailand:
>
>
>
> 0.147
>
> 5: Denmark
>
>
>
> 0.152
>
> 4: Canada:
>
>
>
> 0.187
>
> 3: US:
>
>
>
> 0.233
>
> 2: Japan:
>
>
>
> 0.304
>
> 1: Slovenia:
>
>
>
> 0.317
>
>
> Germany was 15 at 0.073% and Italy 21 at 0.049%.
>
> Slovenia was a bit of a surprise but it is a small
> country so a relatively small population of hams
> (6,500 as of 2000) can tip the scale pretty easily.
> Same with Norway with 6,818 hams as of 2022. US had
> almost 780,000 as of 2021.
>
> So we hams are a relative rarity, population wise -
> approx. 1 in 500 in the US. We are LEET! (
> https://bit.ly/45DwgyC )
>
> 73,
>
> T.
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